'ok siri' always listening like Moto X - Always Ready 'ok google now'

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    TwoBytes macrumors 68020

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    Moto X - Always Ready



    I thought it was a great feature. Who would like to see this in iOS 7 or 8?
    I know you can press a button or raise it to your ear but there is currently no hands free option. The commercial sold it well of lying in bed speaking to your phone

    EDIT: how the moto X works

    HANDS-FREE AUTHENTICATION. Only fools don’t protect their phones with a password, but it’s a pain in the neck to punch it in a few hundred times a day. Motorola plans to ease that pain (though not available at launch) by selling plastic tokens that can clip onto clothing—if the tab is within a few feet if the Moto X, no password necessary. (The tokens use NFC technology, built into the phones.) The Moto X will also let you set up password-free “safe zones” like your car.
     
  2. tehreflex macrumors 6502

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    While it seems android has some awesome features like this, I'd imagine with all the stuff enabled it just murders your battery. And the always on thing, does it only trigger with a keyword or is it constantly listening? Bad enough the NSA watches everything on the Internet. Do we want them to hear all of our personal conversations too?
     
  3. FSMBP macrumors 68020

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    Here's how Google Makes it work:
    1. It uses a special chip with low-battery consumption
    2. There is a trigger phrase
    3. Only once the trigger phrase is said does it record what you say & spend it to Google (the activation of it happens locally - it isn't constantly sending your personal conversations over the internet).
     
  4. tymaster50 macrumors 68030

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    seems like another gimmick feature that will fade into obscurity in a while
     
  5. kolax macrumors G3

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    I think voice control like that is awesome, but I don't really need to talk to my phone often. I never use Siri. But then being able to say "Siri, 10 minute snooze" in the morning would be nice!

    My TV on the other hand..
     
  6. Todd B. macrumors 6502

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    If it comes to iOS then it better be opt-in because I sure as heck don't want that nonsense on my phone.
     
  7. centavar macrumors member

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    Is it so hard to press a button for 2 seconds? It's not like we talk to our phones all day to consider such feature time saving.

    Also i find it easier to blindly press the volume button in the morning to snooze, compared to having to say "Ok Google Now (wait for the blip), snooze the alarm".

    I'll probably be awake after saying it loud and clear enough... And if it bugs out like Android loves to do I'll probably throw the phone against the wall lol.
     
  8. Parise macrumors 6502a

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    The android version of this works amazingly.

    Funny how we can't bring up anything android on this forum without people feeling the need to throw an insult or 50 in the thread.

    That being said, Siri itself is a gimmick. If this was a opt in/out feature that would be ideal.
     
  9. Todd B. macrumors 6502

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    Voice search, in general, is a gimmick; Google or Apple.
     
  10. batting1000 macrumors 604

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    The laying in bed commercial definitely sold it like the OP said. Wish I could do that with Siri tbh.
     
  11. centavar macrumors member

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    Exactly, at least Siri doesn't get in the way always spying on you.
     
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  13. KeanosMagicHat macrumors 65816

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    I can appreciate other people wanting to see this as a feature, but it's not for me.

    If I want access to Siri (which I use a lot) I'm happy pressing a button on my phone or bluetooth earpiece.

    I'm just pleased I have an accent that Siri seems to understand over 95% of the time as others seem to struggle a little.

    With regard to speech, the next thing I'm looking forward to is real time conversational language translation.
     
  14. TwoBytes thread starter macrumors 68020

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    Forget all the conversations about 'google' always listening. Whatever you say to siri in it's current form is stored by Apple anyway.

    The laying in bed hands tucked behind a pillow comfortably as it's snowing outside and talking to siri without moving would be great.

    would be nice in the car too.
     
  15. TwoBytes thread starter macrumors 68020

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    Just found this which makes the features VERY attractive. Hope apple implements this

    HANDS-FREE AUTHENTICATION. Only fools don’t protect their phones with a password, but it’s a pain in the neck to punch it in a few hundred times a day. Motorola plans to ease that pain (though not available at launch) by selling plastic tokens that can clip onto clothing—if the tab is within a few feet if the Moto X, no password necessary. (The tokens use NFC technology, built into the phones.) The Moto X will also let you set up password-free “safe zones” like your car.
     
  16. TwoBytes thread starter macrumors 68020

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    keep this on topic of voice activation. There's another thread to talk about buying it or not
     
  17. ThisIsNotMe macrumors 68000

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    Its funny. There was a video a while back of some guy trolling another guy in Google Glasses in public by walking up to him and saying random commands.

    Don't see how practical features like this are considering the general population is full of *******s.
     
  18. batting1000 macrumors 604

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    I've heard that it's harder to do with the Moto X than Google Glass. I think over time, the MX learns your voice so a random person can't say Okay, Google Now and have it work.
     
  19. Night Spring macrumors G5

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    I also think "Ok google now" is quite a mouthful. What about just "google"? Or "hey, google"?

    And yes, I would have to be very awake in order to be able to articulate the snooze command clearly enough for google to understand me.
     
  20. ctransch macrumors newbie

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    Google Now (Voice) I think is by default using offline speech recognition in English by default. It has the ability to personalize your recognition by sending it to Google but its not on by default.

    Doesn't mean they don't hear/see it but at least it seems like it isn't going to the Goog by default.
     
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    I think this is a great feature. Apple is loosing its innovative edge in terms of consumer appeal. This might upset people but I'm unfortunately starting to believe it. Yes Apples hardware is very innovative and always at the front line. There software seems to e falling behind a lot of the android stuff. Its hard when its basically the whole Android community vs. Apple. The odds are not in their favor.
     
  22. Stuntman06 macrumors 6502a

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    I use my phone as an alarm clock. I activate voice actions, so I can say, "stop" or "snooze" when the alarm goes off. It's nice not having to reach for your phone when you have been abbruptly woken up and still in a daze and then having to slide to turn off the alarm. This is the voice reco feature I use on my phone.
     
  23. MRU macrumors demi-god

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    The Moto X has a dedicated chip for this.... They couldn't just 'add' it to Siri without serious compromises.
     
  24. Donvald macrumors member

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    Its not about google listening, its about [insert your government spy agency here] demanding access and then using that to listen in whenever they want to selected handsets.

    Anyone following the Guardian's revelations would realise that this is not only possible, but highly likely to occur. It would be naive to think otherwise. An always on listening device that is carried everywhere is akin to wearing a bug.
     
  25. mattopotamus macrumors G4

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    I think this is anything but a gimmicky feature. Being in bed and on the road are the two places where it will really shine. I can't wait to see reviews.
     

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