old laptops

Discussion in 'Apple Collectors' started by jefhatfield, Nov 13, 2002.

  1. jefhatfield Retired


    Jul 9, 2000
    we all know that apple's laptops are built tough and last a long time (three to five years and sometimes longer)

    as a pc tech, every pc laptop i have seen over three years old had something terribly wrong with it (dead screen, missing keys and keys that didn't work, dead battery with the only resort an expensive replacement that was jacked up in price, etc...)

    after three years as a technician and many laptops later, i have finally found a fully functioning PC laptop from 1997 with a pcmcia 33k x-jack modem and a proprietary pci expansion slot in the back for modem or ethernet card ( i have only seen back panel expansion slots on desktops)

    it's a hitachi and uses a pentium 1 mmx, 12" passive screen, 1.33 GB hard drive, 32 MB of RAM, and weighs a ton and must be 2" inches thick ;)

    af first i thought the screen had something wrong with it because it was so faint, but it's a pre-dual scan passive matrix lcd, which was replaced in the industry with dual scan passive matrix, then hpa passive matrix, and finally where we are today with the active matrix screen

    it originally had windows 95 but got a windows 98 upgrade, and the productivity software with it is microsoft works 2.0 ;)

    a five year old, fully functioning pc laptop should go into a pc museum as a curiosity:D
  2. Macmaniac macrumors 68040


    Oldest Laptop

    The oldest working laptop I have seen was a powerbook 150 which was my grandfathers. It still runs great on system 7.6.
    Codename: JeDI
    CPU: MC68030
    CPU speed: 33 Mhz
    FPU: None
    motherboard RAM: 4 MB
    maximum RAM: 40 MB
    number of sockets: 1 -- unique slot
    minimum speed: 70 ns
    ROM: 1 MB
    L1 cache: 0.5 k
    L2 cache: n/a
    data path: 32 bit
    bus speed: 33 Mhz
    slots: modem
    SCSI: HDI-30
    Serial Ports: 1
    ADB: none
    Floppy: 1.44 MB SuperDrive
    HD: 120/250 MB (IDE)
    CD-ROM: none
    Screen: Passive Matrix 2 bit (4 gray) 640x400 built-in
    Sound Output: mono 8 bit (built-in speaker)
    Sound Input: none
    Ethernet: none
    Gestalt ID: 115
    power: 17 Watts
    Weight: 5.8 lbs.
    Dimensions: 2.25" H x 11.25" W x 9.3" D
    Min System Software: 7.1.1
    Max System Software: 7.6.1
    introduced: July 1994
    terminated: October 1995

    Introduced in July 1994, the PowerBook 150 was Apple's first truly affordable PowerBook. While people grumbled about its lack of an ADB port (It had only serial and SCSI ports) and fuzzy passive matrix screen, the 150 was an excellent value at $1,300. It was discontinued in October 1995.

    Its over 8 years old:)
  3. Fezwick macrumors 6502

    Oct 5, 2002
    Rhode Island
    My brother has an old Macintosh Portable. It still runs great, even has a 2400 baud modem in it! I wonder how old it is...
  4. Mighty Mac macrumors member

    Jan 10, 2002
    Old PB

    I have a 165C purchased in september 1993, Currently running system 7.5.5, Word, Lotus 123, Snood, and more. Apple makes machines that just do not quit.

    "Only problem batteries don't last so long" - Data

    Logic Board Ports Power
    Processor: 68030, 33
    PMMU: integrated
    FPU: 68882
    Data Path: 32, 33
    L1 Cache: 0.5K
    L2 Cache: none
    Slots: modem
    ADB: 1
    Video: mini-15
    SCSI: HDI-30
    Mic Type: Omni
    AirPort Ready:
    Other Ports: Printer
    Memory Video Memory
    Logic Board: 4 MB
    RAM Slots: 1, PB1xx
    Min - Max RAM: 4 MB - 14 MB
    Min RAM Speed: 85
    RAM Sizes: 2, 4, 10 MB
    Install in Groups of: 1
    Resolution Video Memory
    128K static (LCD only)
    (built in) Video Memory
    512K VRAM (ext. only)
    (built in) 640 x 400 8-bit 8-bit
    Physical Software Storage
    Introduced: 2/10/1993
    Discontinued: 12/1/1993
    Form Factor: PowerBook 140
    Gestalt ID: 50
    Weight (lbs): 7
    Dimensions (in): 2.29 H x 11.25 W x 9.3 D
    Addressing Modes: 24-, 32-bit
    Orig SSW: 7.1
    Orig Enabler: System Enabler 121
    ROM ID: $067C
    ROM Ver: n/a
    ROM Size: 1MB
    AppleTalk Ver: 57.0.4
    Mac OS Supported: 7.1,7.5,7.1.1 (Pro),7.5.1,7.5.3,7.5.5,7.6,7.6.1
    Floppy Size: 1.44MB
    Floppy Inject: manual
    Int HD Size: 120MB
    Int HD Interface: SCSI
  5. 5300cs macrumors 68000


    Nov 24, 2002
    Old laptops


    I've got an old Satellite Pro 425CDT (p100,4gig,40ram) that I still use. The battery actually still maintains a charge, almost 2 hours, if you can believe it. It came with win95 but I tossed that and put in Debian instead.

    I've got a Mac Portable too, it runs great still, too. I also have a PB150, Duo 270c, 280c, 5300cs & 540c and they all run perfectly.

    Macs really don't quit.:cool:
  6. jefhatfield thread starter Retired


    Jul 9, 2000
    a running pentium 100 today is really amazing in this high tech field

    i never see anything like that which is working

    when the startup screen of my neighbor's machine, in black screen mode comes up, the pentium pro laptop i thought it was is just a regular old pentium 150 with 32 MB of RAM

    and 64 MB is the absolute maxiumun RAM this machine will take

    one has to remember, 64 MB of RAM in 1997 is the same way we would look at a half of gig of RAM

    some mid-90s machines might have gone to 160 MB of RAM, which would feel like a gig of RAM by today's (late-2002) standards:p

    soon we will see 1 gig of RAM in a laptop as an absolute minimum and nothing will be slower than 2.5 ghz...i predict this in 2004 on the PC side
  7. 5300cs macrumors 68000


    Nov 24, 2002
    Amazing indeed ...

    A guy I used to work with back in the states had a 386 or 286 laptop (can't remember) that had the old plasma displays (???) which he said still worked fine. He used an old spread sheet program on it ... uh... can't remember the name...
    Anyway, this guy's house was a miracle for any collector ... 4 year old Palm Pilots still in their boxes SHRINK WRAPPED, CP/M with the original manuals. The list goes on, but it just becomes depressing.
    In this country (Japan) old computers are very hard to find, so I was lucky to find a Mac Portable then only to find out they're all over the place in the U.S. A Lisa over here could net you around $10,000 if not more.
    Export business anyone ? ;)
  8. JupiterZen macrumors regular

    Jul 17, 2002
    Reality Maingrid 23 Subjunction 42A
    Re: old laptops

    I have a fully functional Powerbook Duo 230 with dockingstation :cool:
  9. 5300cs macrumors 68000


    Nov 24, 2002

    I have a 270c & 280c but only the mini dock and the floppy adapter dock thing.:(

    How does the DuoDock work ?

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