Olive Garden Fleecing Their $3 An Hour Workers

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  1. rdowns macrumors Penryn

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    This is unconscionable. All to save a lousy $5 million a year for a company with just under $4 billion in sales. Too bad I don't eat fake Italian food so I could boycott them.

    http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2016/05/12/3777607/darden-restaurants-payroll-cards/
     
  2. MadeTheSwitch macrumors 6502a

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    I feel something is missing with this story. It says workers are given no other option but then also says half the workers get cards instead of checks.

    Also what about direct deposit? That would seem to be a way around this issue, right? For those who have no bank account, they are likely paying a fee to some check cashing service anyway to access their own money, so the cards are just more of the same.
     
  3. BoxerGT2.5 macrumors 68000

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    If they don't like how they are paid, find a new place of employment.
     
  4. MacNut macrumors Core

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    I think CEO of Apple is already taken.
     
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    Yes it is. Unfortunately, by a great manager but terrible innovator.
     
  6. steve knight Suspended

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    yes because no one needs to pay bills. perfectly ok for a employer to do anything they want. the republican way.
     
  7. BoxerGT2.5 macrumors 68000

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    Employers can't do whatever they want, their are labor laws in each state. I don't recall any of them requiring employees being paid a certain way other than in a manner in which taxes are taken out. So what other orders do you bark out at your employer? Don't like the hours being asked to work? Do you put your foot down and make a federal case about it? If you're asked to work Saturdays and you don't want to, you find a job that doesn't require weekends.
     
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  9. steve knight Suspended

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    making people pay a fee to get their money is not right. going to charge them to go to the bathroom too? think of all the money to be made with each toilet flush and hand wash. instead of saving money on paying employees they spent money on improving their food and service so they can make more money. but no thats a silly idea.
     
  10. BoxerGT2.5 macrumors 68000

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    Olive Garden isn't hitting them with fees, the bank is. Their issue is with the bank. If the restaurants don't want to change who administers the payroll card after enough employees complain, my suggestion would be to go work somewhere else. If enough employees do such a thing then maybe the restaurants will get the hint.
     
  11. hulugu macrumors 68000

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    The use of payrolls cards has been a problem for years and frankly any company that requires employees to use such cards should be sued for wage theft.

    Right, these cards are given to people who do not have what the ROC report calls "traditional bank accounts." But, the structure of these kinds of fees often mean that people lose far more money using the card.

    Walmart charges $3 for a check under $1,000 and $6 for a check over $1,000, but the charge for pulling money from an ATM using the Darden card is $1.75 per transaction when "out of network."

    And, for some reason they get charged $5 per month after being inactive for 6 months.

    So, the point, I think should be not that these cards are better or worse than check cashing places, but why are we allowing the payday loan industry to quietly fleece workers because they don't have a bank account.
     
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    I wouldn't say that. It's just kinda unfortunate for Tim that he's been left with trying to figure out a way to follow up the success of the iPhone and iPad with another equally resounding, game changing success so soon after.

    I doubt Steve Jobs could even do that.
     
  13. FieldingMellish Suspended

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    Jobs was quite the hit machine, you know. Even under the influence of a debilitating disease.

    As to Olive Garden, how do they get way with rewarding with a Pittance? ;)
     
  14. steve knight Suspended

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    so loosing maybe thousands by trying to get another job will somehow be better then getting fleeced small amounts? right wing economics 101 I guess? they chose a card that makes them money they could pay with a card that is pretty much free.
     
  15. BoxerGT2.5 macrumors 68000

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    Handling things like a grown up 101, have a job lined up before you leave a job=no loss in wages. You can even give the employer 2 weeks notice like most grown ups do. If that's too difficult of a concept to understand for some then they might be best staying where they are and getting fleeced.
     
  16. hulugu macrumors 68000

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    That's a valid point, but it misses an important aspect: Olive Garden and the rest made a deal with this corporation knowing that a segment of their workers were going to get screwed over. That's just bad policy.

    But, you're right. Workers should leave these companies if they can. The trouble is, a lot of people believe they need these jobs and lack better options.
     
  17. BoxerGT2.5 macrumors 68000

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    I'm not saying the policy doesn't suck. Growing up I worked many jobs, some I hated. Never once did I feel my need to work trumped their ultimate power as the owner of the business to operate his/her business as they saw fit. If I didn't like the pay, the hours, the people, I didn't stay. I lined up another job and gave them 2 weeks to find my replacement.
     
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    Yeah, but these big market changing paradigm events come about usually only once ever 20 years. Anything that comes after, no matter how neat, will end up being disappointing due to its relatively smaller impact (see Apple Watch).
     
  19. MadeTheSwitch macrumors 6502a

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    That's part of a bigger problem. Poor people have always been hit by higher bank and credit fees. Have bad credit? Oh, you pay more interest even though you are less likely to be able to afford it. Have $10,000? No problem here's your free checking. Poor? Please pay $7.50 a month for your account and watch out for those $30 overdraft fees we'll hit you with. Worse, if you don't make much or live paycheck to paycheck and can't make ends meet, or maybe lose your job you'll get hit with fees for overdrawing your account then late fees from your utility providers, so that you get hit from all sides. Time and time again, the rich people who don't need the fee waiving and low interest rates are given them anyway, while the people that can least afford things are charged even more.
     
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    People are already looking to Jobs' era as a golden age and now comes the fall, an insistent perspective that doesn't have to follow actual events.

    Apple keeps churning out thinner and lighter products with better battery life—the battery life on my new MacBook Pro is astounding—and is working on the Apple Watch (not my favorite product, but reminds me of the first iPod, it's easy to misunderstand it) while Cook has said the company will enter "new product categories."

    People have to remember that the iPhone's development began in 2005, but it took another two years before the first iPhone was available.

    Preparing to enter new product categories takes time and it's obvious that Apple is watching how some of these categories evolve in the marketplace before launching a product.
     
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    You must have not been poor. If you are poor you can't take a chance on loosing income you may loose the place you live your car or not eat. right now the job market is narrow too. these business know this. give your two weeks and then they fie you or cut your hours off.
     
  22. MadeTheSwitch macrumors 6502a

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    What about people who have worked for a company that abruptly closes? I have known people who have received no notice at all.
     
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    Disgusting.

    Maybe they could put in for an indentured servant position??
     
  24. BoxerGT2.5 macrumors 68000

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    My dad was a butcher, we weren't "rolling in it" I can tell you that. People need to stop having this mindset that all the people working these jobs are absolutely helpless feeble people who are currently working the only job they can so everything and everyone must cave. Keep telling them "they can't" and we wonder why people feel trapped. I worked jobs where the hours were 6 days a week, if I didn't like where I worked guess what I did on my off day? The job market for service industry jobs isn't narrow.
     
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    Exactly. It's more a fault of overly bloated expectations than an issue with the reality of the company. What we're seeing from Apple now is what every tech company in history has followed through with after unleashing the Next Big Thing. Something big will come along, change everything, and then you have a decade or two of iterations and improvements until technology becomes refined enough to allow for that next Next Big Thing.

    From 2007 on, Apple was seen as the big innovators of the tech scene, with the expectation that they'd eventually release something that'd blow their minds on a quick, regular basis. That just won't happen, no matter how talented your designers, engineers, and management are. Technology is defined and refined by a big jump, little step, little step, little step, little step, big jump process.

    Though if I do have to fault Apple for one thing, it'd be that, despite their reputation as an innovative company, they do tend to be way too overly conservative between those big jumps. It's why they almost always end up being outpaced in the markets they helped create.
     

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