One-Sided Meddling in the Horn of Africa

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by skunk, Sep 9, 2007.

  1. skunk macrumors G4

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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/6985656.stm
    The continuing subversion of international diplomacy by the US is outrageous. The UIC brought stability to Somalia for the first time in years. They were destroyed by an unwarranted US-backed invasion of (Muslim) Somalia by (Christian) Ethiopia, which has returned the country to instability and chaos. Now the remnants of the UIC - those who weren't killed by carrier-borne strikes on their villages from US aircraft carriers - are designated as "terrorists". Is there no end to the distortion?
     
  2. solvs macrumors 603

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    Is there anything we can even do about it? I mean, sure we can make threats, but we don't even have the resources to handle the stuff we're already involved in. Not that we really should, doesn't seem to be something we should. Especially since we'd just make things worse, like we keep doing.

    Meanwhile, Bush is hanging out with this guy.

    Sometimes I wonder what the Hell we're thinking.
     
  3. it5five macrumors 65816

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    Bush is best buddies with dictators around the world, but some tiny ****ing nation in Africa is a threat? Please.

    Eritrea needs to tell the US to **** off, then they need to bring this issue up in the UN so the rest of the world can condemn what the US is doing.

    I'm so sick of this ********.
     
  4. Queso macrumors G4

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    "What" would be nice. However, "if" seems to better fit the evidence.
     
  5. Swarmlord macrumors 6502a

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    At least it won't be queued up behind the 17 resolutions against Iraq that the UN did nothing about. I think those have since been cancelled. Maybe they're tied up doing nothing about Darfur.
     
  6. skunk thread starter macrumors G4

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    The real tragedy - other than this "they" business you are so fond of repeating - is that if the US and the UK had not compromised themselves terminally by their unconscionable behaviour in Iraq, they would have the diplomatic and political capital to ensure action was taken in Darfur. The UN is as much "us" as "them", but it takes an honest broker to properly use the leverage it provides.
     
  7. leekohler macrumors G5

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    Oh quit it with your "nuance" nonsense. Everything is simple black and white. Swarmlord keeps telling you that, so it must be true. ;)
     
  8. adroit macrumors 6502

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    . . or Israel
     
  9. Swarmlord macrumors 6502a

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    The UN has proven itself ineffective long before either war in Iraq.

    Where's the leadership? The new one is no better than Kofi. Also, the last time I checked both Russia and China were members and have fairly large populations and military. Where's the pressure to get them to do something in Darfur?

    Oh that's right. It's Bush's fault.
     
  10. skunk thread starter macrumors G4

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    The UN is only as effective as its membership and the leadership of the Security Council. It was designed to be that way by those in whose interests it was set up.

    The nominal leadership can only do what the US permits. If the US had any real interest in beefing up the UN, it would happen.

    Finally, a word of sense.
     
  11. Swarmlord macrumors 6502a

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    Wow! I didn't know that we had so much control over the combined populations and military might of both Russia and China.
     
  12. skunk thread starter macrumors G4

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    The size of the population has nothing to do with anything, and your military budget is several times the size of theirs, so why wouldn't you? Of course you could just be squandering all your advantages on ill-advised geopolitical adventures and narcissistic macho bluster. That would be a mistake, wouldn't it?
     
  13. Macky-Mac macrumors 68030

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    alas, the UN might not be a good place for Eritrea to complain since it's actually the UN that originally said the Eriteans have been arming Somlian militias...in this case it's the UN Monitoring Group on Somalia that originated the accusations

    here's a BBC report on the matter and below are some excerpts from the report;BBC report


     

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