Only in the land of the brave and the free...?

Discussion in 'Apple, Inc and Tech Industry' started by julianps, Sep 28, 2008.

  1. julianps macrumors member


    Aug 6, 2006
    Wales, UK
    Posted here for posterity [well, for 25 minutes maybe]; however it's the comments, and more importantly the consequences, that are more interesting...

    History, it seems, really can be erased; so much for "I disagree with what you say but will defend to the death your right to say it..."..

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    About two months ago, the group I work for suffered one of the worst product launch failures in its history. In fact, not just the group, but for the company. A very high profile product failed to launch on the day and then continued to fail for an agonizing week afterwards.

    The predictable fallout ensued, with a dressing down by our CEO, followed by the usual finger pointing and finally ending in removal/demotion of some members of the senior management team.

    Thing is, I don’t think any of these so-called consequences would prevent similar failures from happening again, because nothing was done to address the real problem.

    The real problem is we, as a society, only reward success, and never prevention of failure.

    To illustrate, let’s start with a simple thought experiment. Let’s say someone knew in advance the full extend of the failure and could have prevented it from happening. There is absolutely zero incentive for this person to do that, in fact they have negative incentive to speak up.
    This is obvious if you have ever worked in a corporate environment. Success is very easily identifiable, there is a tangible product at the end and it’s relatively straightforward to reward those involved. But on the flip side, failures are always hypothetical until they are fully played out.

    Even with 100% hindsight, knowing exactly what caused the failure, if I had raised that issue before launch, there was no way I could have convinced anyone of the full seriousness of the problem. At best I would just be seen as merely doing my job, but more likely I would have been called a naysayer who isn’t “fully on board” and trying to slow everyone down with overblown hypothetical edge cases.

    This isn’t a dig at people I work with, because this is not a problem unique to our group or even our company. This is how corporate America works. Witness the spectacular failure of the entire financial system. Plenty of people were amply rewarded for the “success” of sub prime mortgages, and those who sounded alarm bells were basically ignored or laughed at, and they certainly got no part of the “success”.

    So what happens now that these naysayers were proven 100% right? Well, the people who benefitted from it the most are getting bailed out, and they keep all their ill-gotten gains. The chairman of Lehman took home $40M last year, and $466M in his tenure from 1993 to 2007. What do you think his “punishment” would be? Well, if he gets terminated, he walks away with $60M. He is far from unique in his position.

    As for us chumps who aren’t “in the game”, every man, woman and child gets to donate $3000 each to bail out these companies that are “too big to fail”.

    Is it any wonder why we fail on a massive scale, and will continue to fail?

  2. Peace macrumors Core


    Apr 1, 2005
    Space--The ONLY Frontier
    This would be more appropriate in the political discussions.
  3. bartelby macrumors Core


    Jun 16, 2004
    The quote is apparently from someone talking about MobileMe.
  4. Peace macrumors Core


    Apr 1, 2005
    Space--The ONLY Frontier

  5. bearbear macrumors regular

    Jun 28, 2008
  6. Scepticalscribe Contributor


    Jul 29, 2008
    The Far Horizon
    This may well lie in the poltical thread, but the OP has raised a number of serious and relevant issues. Markets matter - especially given what has happened in recent months/weeks and yeara, and their impact upon us reaches far further than political differences.

    Companies reward spectacular greed, monumental incompetence, catastrophic judgement, suspension of not just morality but also of critical facultis in pursuit of profit (the most highly elevated ideal) and rash, reckless risk-taking behaviour. We see the results before us.

    Companies which offer autonomy, respect, and the right to act responsibly (Toyota comes to mind) have a workforce which remain with them, and far fewer manufacturing errors.


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