OpenAI President on Apple Lawsuit: We Don't Need Your Secrets

[MacRumors]

OpenAI president Greg Brockman recently did an interview with Joanna Stern, where he commented on the lawsuit OpenAI is facing from Apple and talked about OpenAI's product plans.

Brockman reiterated what OpenAI has already said on the record, stating that the company is "plenty innovative" and uninterested in other companies' trade secrets.

I would say that we have no interest in other companies' trade secrets. We are plenty innovative. We are thinking about things from our own angle. And so that's how we operate and that's what we do.

He also said OpenAI is working on its own long-term product plans.

It's active litigation, so not something that I want to talk about, but all I can say is we're very committed to a long-term roadmap here and that we are focused on our own development and technology. That's what we're interested in.

Apple accused OpenAI of a months-long scheme to steal confidential Apple information from Apple employees interviewing with OpenAI. Apple said OpenAI has created a culture of hardware theft, and that its hardware business is "rotten to the core" because the hardware it's building relies on info stolen from Apple. OpenAI's products are being developed with former Apple designer Jony Ive, though Ive wasn't named in the lawsuit.

Brockman declined to say when OpenAI's first hardware devices will come out, but he said people should "expect them soon." Rumors suggest OpenAI's first product will be a mobile smart speaker without a display, and it has been described as a "humanlike AI companion" designed for home use. He further said OpenAI is working on a "family of devices" and is building its own chips. OpenAI wants to offer "value over time" and deliver on a device that's "built for the AI era" and "maximally useful."

He had ChatGPT answer a question about what OpenAI's first AI device would look like.

My take, something ambient and low friction, voice first but not voice only and with a clear privacy signal.

ChatGPT also answered whether the company's first device would need a screen, and it said "nope."

People haven't been thrilled with the recent merging of ChatGPT and Codex, and Brockman acknowledged that the app is "kind of a mess." He described the current app as "incremental progress towards the future," and said the separate Work tab should be gone by the end of the year, with everything molding into ChatGPT.

Brockman's full interview, which goes into more detail on ChatGPT's future, OpenAI's hardware work, and the company's ambitions, can be watched on YouTube.

Article Link: OpenAI President on Apple Lawsuit: We Don't Need Your Secrets

 

[turbineseaplane]

Why would they steal Apple’s secret on how to make bad AI that doesn’t work?

 

[Michael Scrip]

"We don't need your secrets"

We took your secrets...

🤣

 

[jdawgnoonan]

I imagine that they do not need Apple's secrets, but it is my understanding that they had an ex-Apple hiring manager that asked new hires to bring secrets. That said, OpenAI's entire product is based on using other people's IP and treating it like a publicly available good for which access is billed in tokens.

 

[OldNewMBP]

Yeah... I don't like the video's thumbnail already. It's already hard to not use a keyboard, according to Siri.

 

[rgwebb]

"We don't need your secrets," say executive of company whose product is entirely predicated on repackaging everyone's secrets as their own work.

 

[jz0309]

what else would he say? admit guilt?

and no, you don't need others trade secrets, but at the same token you took all the information you could get your hands on on the internet, whether it was public or not ...

This company just reeks ...

 

[fullauto]

‘We bought them, and their head designer, and his ex designers, and the head designers new company..’

I guess if you buy it, it’s not theft..

 

[rumorphobe]

“We don’t need your secrets”

Just your employees

 

[McWetty]

The may not need them, but they damn sure want them. Need and want are different concepts.

 

[mwhite]

I wouldn't touch Open AI hardware with a ten foot pole.

 

[MiamiFL]

The end of keyboards? No thanks. I hate talking to my phone, my computer, and AI. I prefer to write my thoughts down and revise them into something clear and organized which doesn't happen when I'm talking to my device... on top of that, it just feels weird which is one reason I don't use Siri and have it disabled on all my devices.

 

[smooth_criminal]

Why would they steal Apple’s secret on how to make bad AI that doesn’t work?

This lawsuit doesn't target AI trade secrets. It targets hardware trade secrets. If you read about it, you would know that.

 

[svish]

Waiting to see what will happen with the lawsuit and also at the same time waiting to see their products.

 

[inventor7777]

I would say that we have no interest in other companies' trade secrets.

So why'd you steal them then 😆

 

[LogicalApex]

Why would they steal Apple’s secret on how to make bad AI that doesn’t work?

I doubt they need a lot from Apple on the AI front from a model perspective, but Apple has a lot of valuable IP on the hardware side of tings.

• Valuable IP on processes for building consumer hardware. Since OpenAI is planning a consumer level device this IP could be valuable in many ways.
• Valuable IP on building microprocessors. Processors that are good at ML (AI) while being extremely power efficient. That's valuable to a company like OpenAI as it could give them a serious competitive advantage in either power efficiency or unique features that can be used to build a moat.

 

[Nomoi]

Is having a punchable face a job requirement at OpenAI or is it just a bonus?

 

[boswald]

Of course they don't need Apple's trade secrets. They just scrape the web for anything and everything. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if they searched the dark web for the leaked Apple design documents from Ta-Ta.

 

[tkermit]

with a clear privacy signal.

tf does that even mean. Typical ChatGPT BS

 

[CarAnalogy]

"We don't need your secrets"

We took your secrets...

🤣

The left out the part where he whispered "anymore."

 

[EU-Regulations]

At this point  is cheap joke material.

 

[Mrkevinfinnerty]

"We don't need your secrets.. we employed all of your former staff"

 

[jz0309]

At this point  is cheap joke material.

I suggest you pay very close attention to the earnings release tomorrow ... the apple earnings release that is.

 

[Skwoodge]

Of course, Mr. Altman.

 

[redskr]

Apple can kill OpenAI is they want to and they have the echo system that could do the trick. Apple is never joking about lawsuits that involves the company's IP and company secrets. Now that the lawsuit is heating up, OpenAI needs to settle which will only benefit Apple. This interview clarifies one thing though: visionaries come and go while trying to do what Apple does. Apple has the software and hardware and OpenAI has a working AI assistant? That's like a soul without a body.