Palin says she could defeat Obama if she decides to seek the White House in 2012

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  1. leekohler macrumors G5

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    Run Sarah, run! Please! We are guaranteed Obama wins if you run. This will motivate voters like no other election ever.


    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/sns-ap-us-palin-obama,0,5110972.story
     
  2. Rt&Dzine macrumors 6502a

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    I'm not so sure.
     
  3. flopticalcube macrumors G4

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    GWB got elected, twice! Anything is possible, apparently.
     
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    This bit is rather scary.
     
  5. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    Only a complete brain-fart on the part of this nation could put her in charge.

    Run Sarah! Ruuunnnnnnnnn!!!
     
  6. Lord Blackadder macrumors G5

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    Joe Miller couldn't beat Murkowski on Sara's own home turf. I don't see her faring any better on the national stage. It may be too early yet to claim the high-water mark of the Tea Party has passed, but I don't see them mustering significantly larger segments of the electorate going forward. If conservatism is to make any gains it will be through more conventional and moderate candidates.

    Perhaps, but a very significant gap in numbers exists between voters who view her favorably and voters who vote for her.
     
  7. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    sad part is I think she really could win.
    Reason why is if things are not a lot better in 2 years Obama will be kicked out and GOP will have an easy win. Hell I hope he losses his primary right now. He has kept none of his promises and pretty much seems like empty air to me.

    I honestly see Palin keeping her Campaign promises more so the Obama. Problem is I do not agree with those promises but I expect her to keep to them much more so than Obama has.
     
  8. Rt&Dzine macrumors 6502a

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    Well, it appears Alaska has rebuked Palin. They're calling the write-in candidate, Murkowski, the winner over Palin's candidate who was on the ballot (although he hasn't conceded yet). Palin spent a lot of time, money, and tweets trying to smear Murkowski.

    Even so, I still don't think she should be written off. She'll have a lot of money behind her (Big Oil money).
     
  9. Lord Blackadder macrumors G5

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    What promises? She's promised to "clean up Washington", speed up resource extraction and implement a vague menu of moral legislation. Her foreign policy is as nonexistent as her interest in or comprehension of the world outside Alaska, and her economic policy is the McCainesque "do nothing and let the market fix itself".

    It's incoherent, and her incompetence is the reason she will fail. Conservatives who run the very political machine she rages against will be the first to sabotage her political career.

    Murkowski is a moderate conservative and she proved far too professional and tactically astute for Miller, though she did get caught out badly in the primaries. Joe Miller's unwillingness to concede and desire to try and win an election through tricky legal skullduggery directly contradicts his "plain folks" and "common sense" persona, although that already went out the window after he started marching around with a large, bellicose security detail and refused to say much publicly besides canned rhetoric.

    I don't think big oil is going to support Sarah Palin that much. She may warm their hearts personally with her rhetoric, but she has not shown sufficient ability to protect their vested interests. If she does become a viable candidate, it will be because the Republicans make her the face of a campaign, and install a Cheney-like VP who will actually run the show. If that happens she'll be nothing more than a puppet.

    Even so, I think the GOP is no friend to the Tea Party. They see them as a dangerously unstable political force that has a lot of emotion but little tact or coherence and a pretty incomplete platform.

    And finally, Obama has proven himself as a campaigner, and has the advantage of incumbency.
     
  10. dscuber9000 macrumors 6502a

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    I think Sarah Palin would easily win the Republican primary (Tea Party invading the polls that not that many people normally vote in...) but she would get destroyed in a general election. I have yet to meet a single person in my fairly conservative university that approves of the woman.
     
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    Palin is hated on the left very similarly to how Obama is hated on the right. To say she wouldn't have a chance is laughable and naive. If the economy continues to falter, if Obama continues his ultra left-wing strategies, he'd lose to just about anyone in 2012. He's likable, but not that likable.

    I won't be caucusing for her, but I'd GLADLY vote for her over Obama the quasi-socialist.
     
  12. yojitani macrumors 68000

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    Were Palin to win the presidential election, I would most certainly leave the country.
     
  13. dukebound85 macrumors P6

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    it really is

    shes a nutso and i consider myself conservative
     
  14. Macky-Mac macrumors 68030

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    you're the problem she faces
     
  15. Lord Blackadder macrumors G5

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    But what of her competence to maintain an administration and win re-election? Voters can be swayed once, but, as you took pains to point out during the midterms, it's not always so easy to maintain that momentum. The midterms suggest that her brand of politics is not well supported enough to take the presidency, even if we ignore her obvious limitations as a decision-maker.

    Palin's persona has some short-term political sparkle for conservatives but I don't see any evidence of her being competent enough to build staying power. There are two years to go before elections, and a lot can happen in that time. Will her stock still be high enough to beat all the other conservative candidates?
     
  16. jav6454 macrumors P6

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    Because Kerry had the abortion deal going on. Take that out of the equation I am sure more Americans would have voted for him.

    As per Malibu Barbie, I mean, Palin. She can defeat Obama in her quest for the White House. She will defeat him in fastest candidate ever to be ignored. That's saying something.
     
  17. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    You all say that but in this election there was a huge amount of revenge voting going on. In some areas they saw straight party ticket voting go from jump by over 60% compared to the last election. That is straight revenge voting there.

    Hence the reason why I think Palin could win. She can be a crappy candated but she is not a democrated.

    There is a pretty long list of failures on Obama's part right now and it is growing.
    If the economy is not really starting to recover in the terms of real job grown and unemployment having legitmate falling he can kiss his seat good by.

    By real job growth I am talking 200k per month. 125-150k is break even so it does nothing to address our unemployment and underemployment problem.
     
  18. dscuber9000 macrumors 6502a

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    You forget to mention that moderates seem to hate Sarah Palin just as much as liberals. Even if the economy falters more, I think the public would rather give Obama a second chance than ever give Palin a first.
     
  19. jav6454 macrumors P6

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    True as well. But sometimes, the problems lay within the fact that companies outsourced everything they could. Next time you call, HP, Microsoft, or Dell Customer service... where do you get routed? Detroit? Miami? Dallas? Seattle? New York? No. Somewhere in India. Now, those are each a nice 10K jobs that if would come back would help ease the unemployment a bit.

    Note, I choose some companies I've had the pleasure of calling and receiving Punji on the other side of the line. I am sure there are much more companies doing this.

    Now, enough with call centers, there are other jobs private companies can bring back here and push the economy to 200K jobs a month, yet Obama as a government can't force them because it would be Communist and InTheFail or Full of Fail would say. Now, I know this isn't the only problem. I know there are other things he can do to tackle this problem. For one, education, our infrastructure that is collapsing. Many places that can be used to create jobs, yet nonetheless we get Trillions of dollars in budget for the Military (a military that can't even catch ONE MAN or even defeat the Taliban who fight with hand me downs and sticks and stones) while the Department of Education is left with a decreasing budget, way to go on the future of this country. That will surely bite you in the as$ in the next 20-30 years; if not it is starting to happen now.
     
  20. chrmjenkins macrumors 603

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    Palin would crumble in a Presidential campaign.

    She LEFT her state to have a reality show. She has 0 respect for her constituents and no respect for the oath of office.
     
  21. quagmire macrumors 603

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    Hell take away the media running with the Dean scream, we could have seen Dean as president.

    Who can imagine a loud crowd plus the media could get Bush reelected. :p
     
  22. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    oh good greif I hate dealing with those calling center people over seas. I can not understand 1/2 of what they say threw their accent and they are completely worthless at anything but reading their script.
    Now AT&T technical support line I have found is not that bad to deal with and I know on the Uverse side they are fairly competent on what they know and they understand techno babble and have the freedom to try different things. At least that has been the case with the few times I have had to talk with them. I am expecting to have to do it in again in a few more months as that is about the predicted live span of our DVR.

    From what I have read they need to kill the incentives and the tax loop holes that are allowing companies to ship over seas.
    Fuel cost rising are at least pushing them to want to come back to the US.

    Computer programming in the US is going to be come a lot slimmer soon as the grunt work so to speak in programing is getting ship over seas right now and that is annoying.
    Why pay someone here 70-80k per year when you can have someone in India or China do it for 20-40 bucks per month.
     
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    I'm constantly disappointed with what you're posted about Obama. If you disagree with him, fine, but he is hardly "ultra left wing" and he is no more "quasi-socialist" then many senators and congressmen...certainly not a radical as you are trying to paint him.
     
  24. Rt&Dzine macrumors 6502a

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    Big Oil money in the form of of the Koch Industries ($55 billion net worth). They spent a lot of money on the Tea Party candidates this midterm election, including Miller and Angle. They bankrolled Prop 23 in California. They have a HUGE lobbying presence in Washington. They will back someone who's against clean air and environmental restrictions.
     
  25. callmemike20 macrumors 6502a

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    As a card holding Republican, I believe it would be an extreme risk for Palin to run in 2012. I like her and would vote for her, but she has absolutely (99.9999%) no chance. If the focus at that time is still the economy (most likely will be with the next round of ARMs coming up), Mitt Romney would be the better candidate for the republicans.
     

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