shut up with the whole who's got more posts thing. i don't care. and PDAs will never have a big enough market for a relatively small company like apple. it's too big of an investment with too little of profit.Originally posted by jefhatfield
you are almost at 200 and that is impressive!
pdas are ok but apple may not be into that very well right now but give them time...another year or so
...one day you may go to work on an apple inc. scooter since they invested somewhere under 38 million in segway, but no one knows the exact amount since i have searched the internet intently
you tell em evildead. i think perhaps oldmac should consider changing his name to oldfuddyduddy. jeez whats up this guys butt? seems like you get worse with every post buddy.Originally posted by evildead
I didnt think that portable Mp3 players were doing all that well ether.... now everyone and there mom is trying to make them illigal or obsoleet. but Apple came out with the iPod anyway. My not saying that there is much room in the all ready over cowded PDA market for Apple. but I gues they could try and get in. I know I would buy one... but that me... a MacHead. I dont know how good it would be for the company or how good it would be for my Apple stock. but it would be cool to have one.
ah here is the oldmac i remember. i think these are all VERY good points in addition to apple already having "failed" (in quotes because the newton is still the best pda available) in the pda field. i suspect the failure of the newton has a lot to do with jobs' insistence that pdas are just toys. but in light off all this i think dannyzr2 has a point:Originally posted by oldMac
AmbitiousLemon, perhaps you're right. I have noticed a rather negative tone to my posts lately.
But here's why I think the iPod is different from the PDA.
1) The iPod is aimed at a consumer market
- This is completely complimentary to Apple's best selling machines and most recently launched software titles.
- The PDA market is dominated by business folks who are required by their companies to have PCs.
- Apple is targeting home users at this point because it feels it has a much better shot at winning them over as opposed to corporate customers. If Apple can't win the minds of home users, it doesn't have a shot at corporate America.
- If corporate targeting is to come, it will come later (in 3-5 years) after OS X is more established, PC connectivity is more homogenized, processor speeds are fast enough to make emulation more realistic for daily work, etc. Apple will have to share the desktop for a good time to come in any case.
2) The iPod is a safer bet
- Millions of users currently have CD players, therefore the potential market is huge (much bigger than PDAs)
- The iPod can be used as a tool to win home users over to the Mac
- The iPod provides a safe-bet platform for experimentation in the handheld electronics area
i think apple will try to make the its pda so much more than what we currently think of a pda doing that it will target a larger audience than the corporate types. as far as the pda coming out soon... i would lean more towards oldmacs prediction: "in 3-5 years," and if less than 3 years then definitely when "OS X is more established, PC connectivity is more homogenized, processor speeds are fast enough to make emulation more realistic for daily work." and perhaps when a cube-like computer (middle of the road computer) makes its reappearance.Originally posted by DanneyZR2
mnky, there will be an apple pda, but it will not be like what you see.. apple is way ahead of palm, visor, or whatever else there is..
jobs is smarter than just putting out a nice looking organizer with a color screen. once again, look at the ipod.. first it gets thrashed, then everyone actually looks at it and wants one (or two).
i can't understand why you people don't realize that apple is not just another software/hardware company. every single piece of hardware they have developed have been ahead of whatever else was out there.
Newton, best handwriting recognition still... iMac, the most copied computer in the world... cube, sustained 1 Gflop supercomputer in an 8" box... iPod, smallest, fastest mp3 player/storage/(we don't know excactly what else this sweet little device can do yet..
it is clear there are more devices for the hub on the way.. i suspect we'll see one in january, and every quarter next year..
there will be a device that will serve as a pda, but will also do much more..