i installed panther when it first came out, i had to reformat back into 10.2.8 cuz almost nothing worked in 10.3 and if it did, it would crash. using panther made PC's on XP look rock solid. its now 2months later and i still dont think ill be reinstalling panther. i cannt see anyone who needs their apps to work 100% of the time using panther. infact it seem panther is only good for internet chatting and surfing the web(if safari doesnt crash on you) progams i use - protools cubase logic flash PS: cs VPC 6 illustrator 10 all these progams were clichy as heck, most didnt even open. i'm a little mad about these cuz i was in the middle of 3 big projects when i installed panther which caused the biggest computer mess i have ever seen. i was told before i installed it that it worked great and every thing ran good on it. after i realized that the people who told me this only use there mac for chatting on forums and to show off their flashy mac to pc users, tryin to 'convert' them. anyways, i just wished they would of waited till panther was really ready. no one wants a beta OS, unless your only into showing it off like your a rep at a trade show.