Man, this has been the worst new product experience I've ever had. I usually have good luck with technology - but after sinking a ton of money into a Dual G5 and installing my "free" copy of Panther - I feel like just about the unluckiest bastard ever. Granted, I expected some minor glitches since the G5s were a new chip, but this technology was clearly rushed to market. First: My initial G5 was a bum machine, which couldn't run anything without crashing constantly and barely had a noticeable speedbump over my former Dual 867mhz. I returned that one to Apple, and they were good about shipping out another one. The new one is faster - but it still makes the irritating power source chirping noises, and the drives still get WAY to hot. Apple's RAM was still incompatible with my 3rd party RAM, actually causing the system to run slower (20 point drop in CPU performance with XBench). The system stability is awful, it crashes all the time, I've seen more spinning beachballs than Annette Funicello. Panther has rendered Suitcase completely unuseable - leaving me (a pro graphic designer) with no font utility, other than the awful Font Book. Nothing runs smoothly under Panther - not even the brand new Photoshop and Illustrator CS. I installed and reinstalled the OS - no change. Granted, Panther is awesome in many respects, but it too feels rushed to market with not enough considerations for the many thousands of people who rushed to buy the G5 (that they've been waiting for for two years). Apple really pulled a fast one on us this time. There had better be some serious updating going on in the near future. I'm very disappointed in the my return on this investment. Worst than that - I am actually losing money, being unable to get work done - and spending all of my time trying to get the damn thing to work. Whatever happened to 3 easy steps..."oh wait, there is no third step." Apparently the rules have changed: Step One - Quickly make shoddy product with one or two oohs and ahs (expose, G5's 64bit nature). Step Two - Utilize Apple communities trust and loyalty to get them to buy in, take their hard earned cash. Step Three - Oh...you mean they wanted it to WORK too? Man...guess we should have tested the stuff out first. That is the end of my rant. Anyone else going through the G5 Panther blues?