I ordered Panther 2 days ago with my (business) sales person and got it yesterday afternoon! So far for the countdowncounter With Jaguar I had some very strange problems like: - Couldn't start Classic (allthough I could boot from OS 9) - Mail was partially English in stead of Dutch (And it showed me other (nicer) icons as on my Desktop (with the same build of Jaguar). I've tried numerous solutions, reinstalled 3 times with or without updates etc. but nothing worked. Anyone else had such experiences? Now I've upgraded to Panther everything works perfectly!!! And Exposé is soo great!!! It simply rocks. One happy black cat.