Passport files of candidates breached

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  1. solvs macrumors 603

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    Surprised this hasn't been posted yet:

    Passport files of candidates breached
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    Obama, Clinton, McCain Passport Files Breached

    It was bad enough when it was happening to 1 candidate, Obama, but all of them? And it took an awfully long time to do anything about it, or even for us to find out what had happened. Still, at least those responsible were fired (well, most of them anyway) so that's something.
     
  2. skunk macrumors G4

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    Does anyone else find it almost too politically convenient that McCain's details were said to have been looked at just in time to avoid any suggestion of partisan motives?
     
  3. stubeeef macrumors 68030

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    I find it very convenient that O & H were looked at to hide the right wing conspiracy against McCain.
     
  4. mactastic macrumors 68040

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    Until we know who the employees are, it is pretty much impossible to tell if this was malicious or not.

    But with the Bush family track record in this regard, I'd say the suspicion level is much higher than it would otherwise be.
     
  5. stubeeef macrumors 68030

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    An employee looking into Obama's; works for an adviser to Obama's campaign. This person, that works for a company headed by an adviser to Obama's campaign (John O. Brennan), looked at McCains too. Seems they were contractors not working in the W administration, but, once again, working at a Virgina-based company, headed by an adviser to BHO's campaign. I smell a left wing, neo socialist, double, super secret conspiracy to undermine the fabric of the free and less taxed!

    Clinton's was accessed first, it seems by someone else at Stanley Inc? An employee owned company(so power to the people is corrupting?).

    Anyway, one more wag the dog diverson for BHO to get off his 20year admiration of a hate-ologist turned preacher.

    Anyone else here annoyed by the prolific use of democrat candidates in church pulpits?
     
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    Yup, those Marines sure do hate America, don't they?
     
  7. stevento macrumors 6502

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    looks like somebody was diggin up some dirt...
     
  8. stubeeef macrumors 68030

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    I don't think Rep Murtha hates the US, after all it gives him tons of money to earmark for home. He loves the US.

    This story was in the making long before wright became headlines (he has been in the making a while himself).
    As the campaigns get nastier, wait till fall, the stories will change and so will fortunes. In this case a diversion for Obama from preacher wrong is a welcome break for his camp.
    I just find it funny, how everything seems to be a W conspiracy, or republican conspiracy right up until it is not, and then again after it is not (ask rev wrong).
    This is not a right wing job, nor a left wing job. IMHO it was curious employees taking a peek. Big whoop.
     
  9. SMM macrumors 65816

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    It appears that the investigation has been limited to the three current candidate. However, the article states"

    "McCormack cited an incident last summer when a trainee had unauthorized access to Hillary Clinton's passport file."

    and...

    "The State Department also detected earlier this year that one of the people who accessed Obama's file also accessed McCain's, McCormack said. That individual was disciplined."

    You may recall that McCain was not the republican's choice for the nomination. That was split between Rudy and Mitt. So, investigating McCain would not have the same significance as it does today. I think it would be very interesting to see if Ron Paul, John Edwards, Huckabee, Chris Dodd, and Joseph Biden also had their personal information compromised. It certainly would be prudent to investigate it.

    As for the 'contractors', to do this just for 'idle curiosity', while certainly within the realm of possibility, seems unlikely. I think many will recall the stories from last summer, where the majority of our intelligence budget was spent on private contractors. The state department would not have to sneak to see their own files. So, the question is, who would need to do so? Anyone without a legitimate reason to do so, and (obviously) without access to them.

    One could conjure up all kinds of theories, considering the times we live in. It will be interesting to see where this investigation leads.
     
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    Maybe the reason you find it funny is because it usually is a right-wing conspiracy.
     
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    so W is stupid but can perform countless conspircacies? must mean the democrats are stupider.
    I guess that is why congress's approval rating is lower than W's.
    I admit, I can't wait till a new administration comes in, just hope it isn't socialist.
     
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    That sounds like something Coultergeist would say. Is that why you used her picture as your avatar?
     
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    really? i know mccain isn't exactly as conservative as some people would like but i don't know if they hate him that much
     
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    Face it: Some people are just natural-born snoops. If they can get into a file on some VIP, they're gonna snoop.

    Anybody who thinks otherwise hasn't ever been married. :D:D:D

    'Rat
     
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    Yes, that is all true. But, why pick presidential candidates, who's personal information would be under close scrutiny? Also, the three we know about were all targets of the right-wing slime machine. Coincidence .... maybe? But, why not pick Britney Spears, Paris Hilton or someone else that might have some interesting photos? It seems that there would be many more attractive targets for a snoop.
     
  16. stubeeef macrumors 68030

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    You are assuming that others were not look into illegally.
     
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    I didn't know any socialist candidates were running...
     
  18. stubeeef macrumors 68030

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    Wolves in sheep clothing....Wolves

    Thats not Ann, I can't stand her, that is Obillary! Could be a younger McCain, or Bills latest intern approved by Hillary!:p
     
  19. solvs thread starter macrumors 603

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    Based on what they've been doing, can you really blame us? The fact that we don't really have a lot of info on this is kinda fishy too. Not to mention the fact that it took so long for it to come out. They tell us "don't worry, we took care of it", and expect us just to accept that? Really? They haven't exactly given any of us reason to trust them, I don't care who it was.

    His people can. Abu Ghraib, warrantless wiretapping, releasing the name of a CIA agent, giving new contracts to companies that have sold us stuff that doesn't work and are making our troops sick? Not about conspiracies stu. Not that I call W stupid necessarily, just oblivious and surrounded by the incompetent and corrupt.

    Congress as a whole. And mostly for what they aren't doing. Breaking it down to Dems, their numbers are better on every issue. Even national security.

    I'm a little surprised at this, and disappointed. You normally don't stoop to such things. You can't honestly believe this.
     
  20. stubeeef macrumors 68030

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    After my phone conversation with my 1st cousin in Edinbourgh yesterday, her being sick and can't get an appointment for a MONTH, and the fact her husband comes to the US every other year for medical treatment, I don't think nationalizing health care is stooping to such things. I think that growing government control of things is BAD, and more socialist than not. Call it what you will, I will call it what I will.
     
  21. skunk macrumors G4

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    Perhaps you should learn what "socialism" means before bandying it about in inappropriate places and making yourself appear ridiculous.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism
     
  22. stubeeef macrumors 68030

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    As in my example in the post above yours. While I don't have my doctorate in socialism, I understand the concept.
    Any MORE movement towards the redistribution via taxes for programs, is in MY book (part of the broad array) socialism.
     
  23. skunk macrumors G4

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    Since you are already, as a nation, paying more for less effective cover, your resistance appears to be not only futile, but counterproductive.
     
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    Unfortunately, there's is precedent for this to be more than just innocuous snooping.

    And, as you'll recall, at that time the incident was dismissed as "just snooping" for "non-partisan" reasons. Turns out that wasn't quite an accurate description of events. Who knew Republicans would lie about something that important?
     
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    Does this include increased military spending as well?
     

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