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Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by aaronvan, Nov 4, 2016.
The good old liberals of Washington State are at it again.
Liberalism is a mental disorder.
Let's hope we never get into another major war, these liberals are going to be **** in the field.
Simply call them what they are: "Guests of the state."
Like it's going to sound better saying: "Incarcerated Person Jones, report to the warden's office"
You could always say
"J'onn J'onzz report to the warden's office."
The Marshall project surveyed persons in prisons on this issue, and published some of the responses they got.
One response jumped out at me.
I found this interesting-- that the guards would attempt to control even the most personal aspects of a client's personality.
How is Washington responsible for this? I know you want to blame someone blame the state.
General Washington isn't responsible for this; the State of Washington is.
What the hell is wrong with "prisoner"??
It's apparently a disciplinary violation for an inmate to refer to herself by that name. Don't you believe that discipline is important in correctional facilities?
Now shut the **** up before I chain you to a bedframe and enforce compliance.
It's mean and hurts their feelings.
Firstly, I will point out that this debate does not happen in 'liberal' Europe. Our prisons, with by no means perfect - and, in some cases, still quite disgraceful, - lack the vicious degree of humiliation and degradation of sheer punitive vindictiveness that these terms carry and convey in the USA.
Thus, "Prisoner" - the word - would not matter so much, or carry such power as a mere noun were it not also such a potent noun, representing, as it does, a vindictive, unforgiving, judgmental and punitive system of justice, one where punishment is prized and any notion of rehabilitation despised.
Yeah, like they are going to spring for a prison made out of flaming bars/walls.
How shall we refer to dropping the soap?
"Lowering the bar."
I still don't understand why we are so proud of dehumanizing the prison population that it's a common trope for violent rape to be a gag in comedies here.
Frankly I don't get why we are such a cruel society to begin with...
Welcome to the human race./sort of sarcasm, sorta realistic maybe 25% sarcasm to 75% realistic.
Considering that the military plays its own games with jargon and terminology—though in combat most language devolves into variations of the f-word and different ways to say "what did you say?"—I'm not so sure.
Gallows humor can be a good sign. Who's more dangerous, the person who realizes that something is horrible and uses humor to blunt the edge, or someone whose bureaucratic fervor is so honed they think calling people inmates or prisoners changes the ugly realities.
I'm not surprised in the least. Prisons are designed around constant belligerent dehumanization of people. The language change is an attempt to window dress real problems. The average prison wants to call the prisoners students, while ignoring their moldy, out-of-date books, or the fact that many prisoners can't read because of deep-set learning difficulties.
Next they'll change "jail" to "waiting lounge" and "prison" to "hotel".
Are they prisoners though?
While I'm all about rehabilitating and removing obstacles from their path to reintegrating they are while in prison prisoners.
According to the Daily Mail, they already have.
Prison= Long Term Limited Mobility Domicile