Penn Judge: Muslims Allowed to Attack People for Insulting Muhammad

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  1. likemyorbs, Feb 26, 2012
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    Disturbing. And the judge is a Muslim convert, go figure. :rolleyes:

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    WTF? OK, well, my beliefs require me to beat the crap out of this judge. I'm sure he won't mind.
     
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    I'll go ahead and assume this judge will be taken off the bench promptly...
     
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    Better publish a vanity book first Son. ;)
     
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    So this judge essentially decided that it's ok for an audience to become hostile against a speaker?

    Now where else have I heard that kind of logic before?
     
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    That judge deserves to lose his job and be disbarred.
    That is a massive conflict of interest case and he should of stepped aside on it.
     
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    what the ****?

    Sharia fairy tales mean nothing. NOTHING is above the Constitution in this country.

    **** this judge. No way this holds up in an appeals court.
     
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    If common sense prevails, this will be overturned before you can say "Muhammed".

    This is how theocracies are started, by the way.
     
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    I hope this judge looses his job, disturbing fits it perfectly.... on a somewhat related note i so hope that the uk will not adopt sharia law.
     
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    Now I'm not saying I disagree with you orbs but this part :

    "Judge Martin threw the case out on the grounds that Elbayomy was obligated to attack Perce because of his culture and religion."


    Is not in that article. Unless I missed it. I read this :

    "Judge Mark Martin threw out a grainy video of the attack and explained that there wasn’t enough evidence to convict Elbayomy of the harassment charge."

    There is a difference.

    Where did you get the quote about the judge throwing it out because he had a right to attack him ?
     
  12. likemyorbs thread starter macrumors 68000

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    I linked to a different article originally and now cannot find it.

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    But that implies Christian judges should avoid cases that have to do with their religion. Or that a gay judge (Vaughn Walker) shouldn't be the judge in the prop 8 case.
     
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    Reality: Just another minor assault case without enough evidence to prosecute. Some quote from a disgruntled claimant, no balancing quote from other party.

    Spin: Muslim Judge convert infects judicial system with Sharia Law.
     
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    Don't you think you should change the title since the article this thread is based on says nothing about the title ?

    It is very deceptive.
     
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    Absolutely not. It's true. The judges quotes are still authentic and the thread title accurately represents it.
     
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    If i read the rest of the judge's quotes from other articles, i would have came up with the same thread title on my own. I think it's an accurate portrayal of what's happening here. You're free to disagree, but i'm leaving it as it is.

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    The defendant didn't exactly deny it. He said he thought it was illegal to insult a prophet in the US. There was no lack of evidence here. Get real.
     
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    Thats pretty much the case with most title headlines, unfortunately. Bad news sells well.
    EDIT :D
     
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    Actually it turns out that the whole first quote isn't from the link presented.....it appears to be from a different source, an opinion piece that's labeled commentary
     
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    I was on my galaxy tab at the time still in bed so I figured I would expand on that now.

    It should be since he clearly can not separate out his religious views from legal views and in this case was siting Sharia law he should of step aside and let another judge handle the case as he clearly could not do it. His personal feelings and anger was clouding his judgement.

    This judge at the end of the day needs to loose his job.
     
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    If this holds up, there will be some very nasty precedents set. I don't think it will.

    The first question to ask is that the 1st Amendment does grant the freedom of religion to the people (government can't pass a law denying that freedom).

    The judge agrees with the following from the Yahoo article:

    the question has to be asked: where and when does religion become a law? I ask, because this judge has now redefined religion as law. If that were to be the case, then any religion in this country now has the ability to become law, turning this country into a theocracy; something the Constitution does not allow.

    BL.
     
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    Once again. You are not quoting the judge. You are quoting an opinion from some writer.

    While I think the judge is a bad judge I wish people would state facts as facts and opinions as opinions.

    Quit quoting an opinion and stating it as fact.
     
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    Hopefully it will happen.
     
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    Agreed good pick up Peace. In my opinion a wasteland thread that needs to be started over without the dog whistle sensationalism.
     

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