Pentagon Don't Listen to Your Parents

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by miloblithe, May 11, 2007.

  1. miloblithe macrumors 68020

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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070511/pl_nm/usa_military_parents_dc

     
  2. solvs macrumors 603

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    Gee, I wonder why. There's even a commercial like this. Where a guys says that his parents didn't want him to enlist, but he does anyway, and suddenly they change their minds and are proud of him. Don't really see that happening much nowadays.

    For those who don't think Bush is destroying the military, here's an indicator that maybe he might be.
     
  3. miloblithe thread starter macrumors 68020

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    To be fair, and as the article explores, there are most likely reasons beyond the current war that the likelihood of parents supporting their children enlisting has declined. Although, given that the reason given is that children of the post-Vietnam era grew up with greater distrust of the military and adventurism makes one wonder what children of the post-Iraq era (assuming there ever is one--in which case children of the Iraq era) will suggest for _their_ children. Where will the US military be in 20-30 years?
     
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    The most beautiful and yet detrimental thing in the world would be seeing Bush reinstate the draft. :mad:
     
  5. solvs macrumors 603

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    I'd like to see him try.
     
  6. leekohler macrumors G5

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    If he "stays the course" he'll very soon have no choice.
     
  7. miloblithe thread starter macrumors 68020

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    He's only President for another year and a half. He's well aware that he can hand the problem off to someone else. Skip more repairs, skip more training, the military can easily maintain the "surge" (escalation for those who are capable of plain talk) for another year and a half by paying the price of long-term readiness and sustainability.
     
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    Yesterday on NPR, they mentioned Blackwater and how an estimated 30-60,000 private forces are over there working for a great deal more money
    than they could ever dream to get from the regular military.

    Some of these more experienced soldiers are quitting the military and joining
    Blackwater for $120-$200,000+ per year.

    So what we have here is a private corporate owned military force with
    estimates reaching to 100,000 members.
    Blackwater was also a major contributor to the Republican election campaign.

    So, the question is when Bush is speaking about money for "our troops "
    who exactly is he talking about funding?
     
  9. takao macrumors 68040

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    yeah the iraq war was the best thing which could happen to mercenaries

    thanks to all the money involved many of those american companies could afford to open european daughter companies and now are hiring also from european armies/police forces

    if it's true that there are now 30k then they actually have more than 1-2 years ago when it was estimated around 18k-20k

    so after italy spain left they hired 3 times their amount in private soldiers ? guess the situation isn't really becoming any better

    perhaps the US administration might reconsider the german proverb: “Besser eine Ende mit Schrecken, als ein Schrecken ohne Ende” (Better a dreadful end than dread without end)
     
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    He won't but if any of the Republican candiates are elected and continue to "Stay the course," or start a new war with Iran there will have to be a draft, or lots more mercenaries. And since I will be 18 by then how is Canada's immagration policy?
     
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    I think it's really important for people to dissect the spin they hear
    when this administration talks about funding "our troops"

    Of course we all want our brave men and women to have everything they
    need to keep them safe as possible, but we must also beware of those who
    would manipulate those feelings using this money to further support
    waste, fraud and abuse at the hands of contractors loyal to this administration.

    When I hear Bush say that he wants a " clean Bill " that translates to me
    as more blank check funding for his cronys.
     
  12. solvs macrumors 603

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    Very tough. Don't worry, just say you're gay. That'll get you out.

    No one is going to want to stay in Iraq any longer than we have to though. Even if a Republican wins. Especially with a Democratic Congress. Despite all the rhetoric, it's pretty much career suicide to stay there any longer than we already have been. Even if it gets worse if we leave.
     
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    Won't work in a draft situation. They'll draft you even if you say you're gay, then deny you any benefits after you've served.
     
  15. solvs macrumors 603

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    I don't know, if they'll kick out some of our only Arabic translators for being gay, pretty sure even a draft wouldn't change DADT. They'll lose all support if they not only institute a draft, but allow gays in the military. Most of the troops wouldn't mind, but the religious right's heads would explode. And look for young people to vote in droves.
     

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