Phoenix man killed in gun-safety demo

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  1. anjinha macrumors 604

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    http://www.azstarnet.com/metro/293333.php
     
  2. mactastic macrumors 68040

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    Damn... Obviously nobody deserves something like this to happen to them, but this guy comes about as close as you can get to deserving it for breaking the biggest safety rule of guns: Don't point a gun at anything you don't want dead. Ever.
     
  3. TuffLuffJimmy macrumors G3

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    Agreed! That's the first rule you learn in archery and operating a bb gun (damaged/dead/wounded).
     
  4. yg17 macrumors G5

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    Isn't rule #1 of gun safety to treat all guns as if they were loaded?

    Moron.
     
  5. SLC Flyfishing Suspended

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    This is the guy they brought in to teach them about gun safety?

    Well at least it was an effective lesson eh?

    SLC
     
  6. themoonisdown09 macrumors 601

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    Exactly. You're also supposed to inspect the gun to see if it's loaded. That's the first thing I do when I handle a gun. If you don't know how to check if that particular gun is loaded, ask the owner before handling it.
     
  7. anjinha thread starter macrumors 604

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    Apparently this was his gun, so he really should have known if it was loaded or not.
     
  8. leekohler macrumors G5

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    Exactly. That's the forst rule of gun safety.
     
  9. TuffLuffJimmy macrumors G3

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    I can't believe someone teaching about gun SAFETY would ignore the rules!


    Well with #of People <6,000,000,000 in the world it was bound to happen somewhere...
     
  10. mactastic macrumors 68040

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    Doesn't matter. You should always remove the clip and pull the slide to clear any ammunition when you handle a gun that's been out of your possession, even your own. And even then you shouldn't point it at anything you don't want dead.
     
  11. anjinha thread starter macrumors 604

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    I didn't mean that he didn't need to check it because it was his gun. Just that he should have already known that it was loaded. Specially someone who is advising that guns should be kept unloaded.
     
  12. mactastic macrumors 68040

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    Eh... people forget things. Who knows how long it had been since he handled his gun? He obviously thought it was unloaded, most likely because he had removed the clip, or inserted an empty clip the last time. But that doesn't clear the chamber. So that was his first mistake. And then he broke the 'don't point a gun at anything you don't want dead' rule to boot.
     
  13. TuffLuffJimmy macrumors G3

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    There's something not as satisfying in irony that involves someone blowing their head off in front of other people entirely unexpectedly.
     
  14. Eanair macrumors 6502

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    Well, that's a bit embarrassing isn't it?

    In my work, we automatically treat all human source material (ex. blood) as though it is infectious.

    Likewise, with gun handling, you automatically treat all guns as though they were loaded.

    Additionally, if you aren't willing to shoot it, don't aim at it.

    What kind of safety was this guy teaching?
     
  15. TuffLuffJimmy macrumors G3

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    Exactly! Hand guns are designed to kill, why would you point anything specifically designed to kill right at your head? There doesn't even need to be a rule about this, it's just common sense!
     
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    I'd say!

    But what a... <bleep>! Thankfully he didnt use those Sierra residents as volunteers!
     
  18. anjinha thread starter macrumors 604

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    That's the thing, he was teaching that guns should be kept unloaded. He did the exact opposite of what he was advising.

    But yeah, of course he should have checked it first.
     
  19. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    This. I have been taught this even with a bb gun when I was 8. That and never point the gun at a person or yourself.
     
  20. Eanair macrumors 6502

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    Mmm.

    When I was...8 or 9 or whatever young age I was at the time...my first lesson was unless you're willing to shoot it, don't point at it. Our instructor was very very adamant about that.
     
  21. JCastro macrumors 6502a

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    It reminds me of the DEA Agent that was giving a firearms safety class to a bunch of kids (video link). After saying that he was the only one professional enough to carry the gun he shoots himself in the foot. Then he tries to carry on with the class. :D

    I never want to see someone dead, but jeez!
     
  22. steve knight Suspended

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    not to him it isn't he does not care much anymore.
     
  23. ucfgrad93 macrumors P6

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    Wow, that is just sad. I hope he didn't have a wife and kids.
     
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