Police manhunt for Raoul Moat

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  1. R94N macrumors 68020

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    It's dangerous 'oop North alright.

    Not sure I agree with you on the doesn't happen as much here part though.
     
  3. steviem macrumors 68020

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    Really? New York 1 reports probably 1 or 2 fatal shootings a week and that's just for the 5 boroughs of New York City.

    We have had that guy in the North West go on a rampage and now this fool and they were the first for a long time. That is for the entire country, not even just one city.

    I just hope the armed Police put a couple of rounds into one of this guys limbs so he can spend the rest of his life in prison with one arm or one leg. I don't want them to give him what he wants.
     
  4. allmIne macrumors 6502a

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    Yeah it definitely happens less over here (thank goodness).
     
  5. R94N thread starter macrumors 68020

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    Well, when I said that I was comparing the UK to the US. There's a lot more gun crime there.
     
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    The picture they have posted of the him in the article, makes him look like an a$$hole.
     
  7. R94N thread starter macrumors 68020

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    Yeah, the picture with the kid. He looks quite menacing to me there. Horrible really. Big guy - he was formerly a bouncer apparently. Not someone to mess with, especially when he's got a gun.
     
  8. ethical macrumors 68000

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    That's because he is an a$$hole.

    I'm wondering why they don't bring in the army. The extra man power would surely help?
     
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    Not sure. Would be a good idea though.
     
  10. PlaceofDis macrumors Core

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    200+ shootings in Chicago for the first six months of this year. :eek:
     
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    For those that Live in the UK, do the police there have divisions of armed police and unarmed police. Or do they (police) have the option to carry a firearm?
     
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    All our territorial police forces have a specialist fire arms unit which can send armed response vehicles to situations that warrant their presence. They're the only officers who can be armed (and are done so under strict guidelines), regular officers don't have the option to carry firearms.

    It's quite rare to see armed officers day-to-day – I can't recall having seen any in person apart from at airports.
     
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    Thank you for the reply. I never knew that there were these units. Thanks again.
     
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    On my walk to work from Waterloo Station, I always used to pass two armed Police Officers with sub machine guns. Was pretty good seeing them out and about really.

    That was about 2 years after 7/7 happened. Which, by the way, is the 5 year anniversary. :(
     
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    Do these armed officers go on calls (disturbance, accidents, civil infraction, etc.) or are they mainly on security/high impact calls? Are they in comparison to the specialized SWAT teams that we here in the US have?
     
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    Any call where there is a firearm or some sort of weapon they go on.
     
  17. ethical macrumors 68000

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    They wouldn't do routine stuff, but would respond to situations where firearms may be needed.

    The closer comparison to your SWAT is the SAS (Special Air Service), arguably the most elite fighting force in the world. The SAS are the guys called in for things like hostage situations (e.g. Iranian embassy siege in 1980), and elite military missions abroad, many of which are black-bag etc.
     
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    The SAS in fact could be out there as part of the search for him, but they'd keep quiet about it.
     
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    Actually that is a better word for what I was thinking instead of the one I used. I agree.....
     
  20. Mintin8 macrumors 6502a

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    I'd assume they would at least be on alert.

    This is tragic, I hope this man is found soon.

    Have you guys seen the picture of the policeman he shot? I don't get his vendetta against the police... After all, they're normal people as well.
     
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    They're more common than you realise: usually they're in cars & can be recognised by a luminous yellow circle in a window on each side. Known as Trojans, each officer carries a personal sidearm and the boot is stuffed with MP5s/ G3s.

    Granted its rarer to see them on the street but they're around. Plenty in London but saw a few when I went back to Leeds a few weeks ago (might be rarer in Hull :)).

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    No doubt, although I wouldn't trust Humberside Police with a water-pistol let alone a loaded gun...
     
  23. ethical macrumors 68000

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    Well he was only released from prison a short while ago. It was my understanding that he had a lot of trouble with the police during his prison experience (before, during and after).
     
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    He also seems to have been of the mistaken belief that the man his ex-girlfriend was with – the man who he shot dead – was a police officer, and he blames the police for ruining his relationship with her.
     
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    Yeah I just read that. Hope this is all over soon, really is a dreadful series of events!
     

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