Poll: Biden gets 6-point launch bounce

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  1. lowendlinux Contributor

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    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/30/joe-biden-2020-democrats-poll-1292499

    Can anyone tell me why Biden would be leading with black voters?

    I sorta get why he'd lead with white working class voters but for everyone else he seems so meh..
     
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    There’ll be enough photos of him having his arm around a female young enough to be his granddaughter(!) to shut out the purity voters.

    Meanwhile, a video could surface of Trump with his arm up a woman’s rear using her like a sock puppet and it would have zero impact on his supporters.
     
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    NOT So sure, the #metoo crowd is pretty selective
     
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    Not as selective as you'd think. At least in the small sample of women that I've heard about talking about Biden (who view him quite favorably and understand that some cultures are more touchy than others).
     
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    THAT is what I mean by selective, if it was a republican they would want him jailed..........democrat? makes no difference how many rape accusations or settlements, he would be a darling of the left like Bill was.........
     
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    If the Democrats don’t give the nomination to somebody progressive, and I don’t mean it has to be AOC extreme progressive, then it will be an old people voters vs old people voters election.

    However I can see the young left voters giving their votes to Trump out of spite. They may not like Trump but they probably also don’t expect much from him or the Republicans. The Democrats on the other hand are directly straight up shutting them out. A voter scorned….
     
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    This makes literally no sense at all.
     
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    Bernie bros jumped ship, it was Bernie or bust so .
    https://www.npr.org/2017/08/24/5458...voters-ended-up-supporting-trump-survey-finds
     
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    Biden ... eeew. About as inspiring as watching a cat sleep.

    EDIT: A call to action -

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  12. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    That happens every time, in fact it was low in 2016.

    They were probably sexist voters who couldn’t cope with voting for a woman president. Or they (wrongly) thought Trump and Clinton were equally corrupt due to the media’s obsession with “both sides”.
     
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    Where did I lose you and I'll clarify.
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    I lean left but am glad the neoliberals got their ass handed to them and hopefully will continue to until they wake up and go back to being the party of the poor and middle/working class. We don’t need 2 parties for the rich. Neither party cares about the majority of the population. All they care about is winning. Period.

    Anybody who thinks the current iteration of either party is way better or different than the other is delusional or living at least 4 decades in the past.
     
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    The Hill: Liberals attack Biden - it seems pretty clear that there are far more in the party that lean towards the center than the left wing given the size of Biden's lead. They don't make a lot of noise about it though. Why do we listen to the people that make the most noise if they are a small percentage?
     
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    Because they make the most noise.... We hear from them more. Also the media likes sensationalism and rational centrism doesn't cut the bill.
     
  16. ericgtr12, May 7, 2019
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    The most out of touch post I've read here in a long time and that's saying something.

    Fun fact: (and this is NOT just Liberals)
     
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    It's all going to come down to who shows up on election day. Many of the loudest voices are the least likely to vote. And the GOP is revving up their voter suppression machine to full throttle. Between the Bernie or Bust crowd, apathy among loudmouths and Chad Crow-Voter Suppression it's a real challenge for Dems to do well. The 2018 Midterms were encouraging. Let's see if the momentum continues or if a lot of those riled voters stay home after possible Dem infighting. Again!
     
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    First off, any attacks on Biden from those on the Right have to realize who your guy is - and hopefully just be quiet. I'm not sold on Biden, but next to Trump, I'm not sure how much criticism of him verges into outright hypocrisy. As for the left, you can't win on ideology - you have to temper it with pragmatism.
     
  19. BoxerGT2.5 macrumors 68000

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    Very different bases. The left is all about being "Woke", Trumps supporters are everyone tired of being looked down upon for not being "woke", they can care less about the manufactured cosmetic issues. Yes, Trump can bang a porn star on 5th Ave in front of Saks mid-holiday storefront light show and his supporters couldn't care less as long as he's steadfast on immigration reform and taxes.
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    Correct, IF those attacks are character attacks. Although I don't foresee many making those if Trump is your horse. Policy attacks are another story.
     
  20. Chew Toy McCoy macrumors regular

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    Apparently you didn't get the memo that some Bernie supporters voted for Trump when the DNC shafted Bernie in 2016 and another thread sited a recent poll that said 20% will do it again. That's not out of touch at all.
     
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    Well, he did serve under a president who had overwhelming support with black people so I suspect that probably plays a role.
     

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