Poll : do yosemite looks great or terrible because you use retina display or not

Discussion in 'OS X Yosemite (10.10)' started by Tankmaze, Oct 19, 2014.

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Does yosemite looks good or not

Poll closed Jan 27, 2015.
  1. Yosemite looks great, I use retina mac

    34.9%
  2. Yosemite looks great, I use non-retina mac

    46.5%
  3. Yosemite looks teribble, I use retina mac

    7.0%
  4. Yosemite looks teribble, I use non-retina mac

    11.6%
  5. I like cheese

    18.6%
  1. Tankmaze macrumors 68000

    Tankmaze

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    #1
    Hi,
    Been reading the forum lately that seems a bit polarizing about yosemite, some thinks that its good but I assume they are using retina mac, or someone that thinks its ugly cause they are on non retina mac.

    So I decided to create yet another poll regarding yosemite the options are :

    Yosemite looks great, I use retina mac
    Yosemite looks great, I use non-retina mac
    Yosemite looks teribble, I use retina mac
    Yosemite looks teribble, I use non-retina mac
    I like cheese
     
  2. tkermit macrumors 68030

    tkermit

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    #2
    I think Yosemite overall looks pretty nice on non-Retina displays. I would imagine that it looks absolutely fantastic on Retina displays. Although readability might still be an issue in places.
     
  3. grahamperrin macrumors 601

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    I have a top-of-the-range notebook from 2009 with Mavericks, looking good.

    Next week I expect to get a 15-inch MacBook Pro with Retina display and 512 GB PCIe-based Flash Storage (around £200 more costly than the default 256 GB). The purchase is timed to avoid a requirement for Yosemite; the model (MacBookPro11,2) was introduced in July.

    Not quite top of the range – I'm not greedy with money that's not my own – but it's value for money. I expect the hardware to be good (with Mavericks, not with OS X 10.10) for at least six years.

    From occasional use of pre-release Yosemite on the 17" at 1920 x 1200 pixels, I know that released 10.10 will look equally bad on the 15" at 2880 by 1800 pixels.

    (For me, the overwhelming complaint about looks is not the suboptimal appearance of Helvetica Neue. My complaints focus on a change of design that Apple has bulldozed through with no known workaround.)

    I'll get some cheese to go with my cider.
     
  4. Tankmaze thread starter macrumors 68000

    Tankmaze

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    Yup that's the thing, I assume yosemite is destined to look great on retina display with thin font and translucent background. I still haven't upgrade, but by the looks of it, non-retina mac would likely be a second class citizen.

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    That's good for you, I think Mavericks could be the new Snow Leopard. With it's last "good design", and no known issues. Haven't have much trouble with mavericks, been using it since 10.9.0.
     
  5. grahamperrin macrumors 601

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    Questioning the assumption that the appearance of OS X 10.10 will be fine with Retina

    It's a reasonable and popular assumption, but some of the post-release comments make that assumption increasingly questionable. Examples, from the 'terrible' topic:

    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=20137719#post20137719

    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=20140328#post20140328

    In the same topic:

    Apple's use of a Helvetica Neue, and top-of-the-range pre/non-Retina hardware: links
     
  6. tkermit macrumors 68030

    tkermit

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    I wouldn't really call that 'knowledge'. :confused:
     
  7. grahamperrin macrumors 601

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    Sorry, I should have been explicit about the focus of my complaints:
    • removal of the title bar from Safari.
    (Maybe difficult to believe, considering the recent noise from me: I'm trying to not mention those words too often.)

    To put things another way, verbosely, with reference to the subject line (and an emphasis from me) –

    'do yosemite looks great or terrible because you use retina display or not'​

    – from use on the MacBookPro5,2, I know that Yosemite will also look terrible to me on the most recent type of MacBook Pro with a Retina display; but that trouble with the appearance of OS X 10.10 is not because of the display.
     
  8. theSeb macrumors 604

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    I think Yosemite looks great on my rMBP, but it's a very subjective thing.
     
  9. Tankmaze thread starter macrumors 68000

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    That's the thing, if you have the hardware (retina display) would yosemite look good to you. or if you don't have the hardware would you still think yosemite looks good ?

    So even though it is very subjective, it is still an interesting poll and maybe we could make an objective assumption if enough people vote for it.
     
  10. theSeb macrumors 604

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    #10
    Well, I have just updated the nMP where I use a dual setup with "normal" monitors. I would say that it does not look as great as it does on the rMBP, but it still looks very nice. I am currently running a virtual machine in Yosemite, which is hosting Mavericks on a standard display, so the comparison between Yosemite and Mavericks is very obvious and I think Yosemite looks good.

    It takes a couple of minutes or hours, but you soon forget about Mavericks.
     
  11. Tankmaze thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Well, the general consensus seems to be that yosemite looks good no matter if you have retina or not. Case closed.
     
  12. grahamperrin macrumors 601

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    #12
  13. grahamperrin macrumors 601

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    A quick roundup of some of the topics from before this poll began:
    – there may be more, but I'll not request mergers.

    From a recent topic about the new Apple Developer Program:

    Hand on heart, I can't describe https://developer.apple.com/support/membership/ as looking good on a 17" MacBook Pro. On the same Mac, https://discussions.apple.com/community/tutorials looks much better than Apple's new approach.
     
  14. redheeler, Jul 7, 2015
    Last edited: Jul 7, 2015

    redheeler macrumors 603

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    #14
    Let me take another look at this.
    Font-Comparison.png
    I agree the choice of using a light gray text color is a poor one, especially on non-Retina and non-IPS displays such as the one on my 2008 MacBook Air here. The darker gray used on most of the site looks much better.

    In addition, it would be nice if font smoothing could be left enabled for non-Retina. This was a feature designed to increase legibility on LCD displays, and without it legibility is decreased.
    Font-Smoothing.png
    But with just the color change it looks fine on non-Retina, at least to me.
     
  15. Pablo Melo macrumors newbie

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    Screen Shot 2015-07-07 at 5.02.56 PM.png I don't like how Yosemite looks.
    So I started to customize it... I wanna see where it can go.
     
  16. redheeler macrumors 603

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    #16
    How did you get the scrollbars to look like that?
     
  17. bobbie424242 macrumors member

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    Yosemite looks horrible on non-retina screens. Windows font rendering is so much better on such screens.
    On retina screens, Yosemite is OK.
     
  18. Ulenspiegel macrumors 68030

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    For me Yosemite and its flat, primitive design looks terrible on any screen.
     
  19. Pablo Melo macrumors newbie

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  20. redheeler, Jul 7, 2015
    Last edited: Jul 7, 2015

    redheeler macrumors 603

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  21. grahamperrin macrumors 601

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    Try Flavours (discussion; my thanks).
     

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