POLL: Do You Think Betsy DeVos Will Get Confirmed

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by samcraig, Feb 7, 2017.


Do You Think Betsy DeVos Will Get Confirmed

  1. Yes

    21 vote(s)
  2. No

    5 vote(s)
  3. Not Sure

    1 vote(s)
  4. Don't Care

    3 vote(s)
  1. samcraig macrumors P6

    Jun 22, 2009
    It's going to come down to the wire... What do you think? After voting, feel free to comment on whether or not you think she's qualified (or not).
  2. uknowimright macrumors 6502a


    Dec 30, 2011
  3. Chew Toy McCoy macrumors regular

    Chew Toy McCoy

    May 13, 2016
    I don’t get why people are so obsessed with preserving our crappy education system as is. It’s not like more qualified people in the position have improved it. She’ll just bring her own box of off brand band aides to the table.
  4. samcraig thread starter macrumors P6

    Jun 22, 2009
    That's no reason to confirm someone that can and likely will make it much worse. The objective of any appointee should be to get the most qualified person to fill the role. DeVos is not that person. My .02.
  5. forcesteeler macrumors 6502

    Oct 1, 2007
    She wants to privatize education to Corporations?

    Yeah just like our Social Security System, Why don't we privatize it and sell it off to wall street? also? :)
  6. TonyC28 macrumors 65816


    Aug 15, 2009
    Well if one thing is for sure, it's that government can do anything better than private industry. - Said no one ever
  7. Khalanad75 macrumors 6502


    Jul 8, 2015
    land of confusion
    I said yes, and that scares me.

    And it's not that I want more of the "same" as always, just education and Devos should never be used in the same sentence yet alone thought.
  8. webbuzz macrumors 65816


    Jul 24, 2010
  9. jpietrzak8 macrumors 65816


    Feb 16, 2010
    Dayton, Ohio
    In general, Presidents get their cabinets confirmed. Especially new Presidents. Very especially new Presidents whose party has such an overwhelming lock over the Congress.

    Usually, new Presidents and new Congressmen want to start off on the right foot with each other. Trump has well and truly poisoned any relationship he may have had with any Democrats, but I don't think the Republicans want to give up on him yet, especially as this is the first time in a very long time that they might control both Congress and the White House. The quality of the candidate herself is, I think, not the true issue in this case; it'll be whether any Republican Senator really wants to go down the path of exile once they catch Trumps eye. (Because, man, everybody knows that Trump keeps an enemies list, and tries to make life painful for those on it.)
  10. samcraig thread starter macrumors P6

    Jun 22, 2009
    She could be the sacrificial lamb of this administration - lose her but get the others confirmed.
  11. NT1440 macrumors G4


    May 18, 2008
    Hartford, CT
    Of course she'll get confirmed. The GOP's "principles" these days consist of putting incredibly wealthy people in charge of departments they don't think should exist in the first place.

    This is a continuation of their tactic of underfunding services to the point where they can't function properly, point to that disfunction as a reason why THEY should be elected to "fix" it, and then work to dismantle the service out of existence or to the point where it gets nothing but a bad rap from the public.

    Watch the EPA.
  12. yaxomoxay macrumors 68000


    Mar 3, 2010
    I hope not.
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    yeah, that's what I was thinking...
  13. MaulRx Suspended

    Aug 27, 2012
    I don't think she will. More than likely she will be scared into pulling out. Like the army sec did
  14. CaptMurdock macrumors 6502a


    Jan 2, 2009
    The Evildrome Boozerama
    Tell that Enron's stockholders.
  15. s2mikey macrumors 68020


    Sep 23, 2013
    Upstate, NY
    How much worse can it get? We spend WAY more per student than anywhere in the universe by a huge margin yet we keep turning out moron after moron for the most part. Our kids under-peform against some nations/countries that barely have running water. WTF is that?

    I know what the big problem is: Its those obnoxious unions and their neber ending demands for more and more cash. Yet, the cash ends up NOT making it to the students and instead gets sucked up into the unions vortex of pay, benefits, and "administrative" garbage. So lets see what this new person can do.
  16. samcraig thread starter macrumors P6

    Jun 22, 2009
    Usually when someone says something like how much worse can it get fails to realize - a LOT. Not a gambler with my kid's education. Thanks.
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    Well that sucks.
  17. tgara macrumors 6502a


    Jul 17, 2012
    Somewhere in the Delta Quadrant
    Oops. The Senate just confirmed her, with Pence breaking the tie.
  18. NT1440 macrumors G4


    May 18, 2008
    Hartford, CT
    ....what reality are you living in? Every teacher I've ever met or discussed the profession with has been giving up pay (pay freezes while natural inflation occurs) and losing benefits, while paying out of their own pockets for school supplies. Where in the hell is this never ending demand for more pay happening? Because they sure as **** aren't getting that extra pay.
  19. uknowimright macrumors 6502a


    Dec 30, 2011
    great, more fairy tales in school
  20. samiwas macrumors 65816

    Aug 26, 2006
    Atlanta, GA
    It's essentially like saying "Well, I've had a leak in my basement for a few years, and the last three plumbers I hired didn't fix it correctly. So, I've decided to hire a dry cleaner to take care of it."

    In the end, I think she will be confirmed simply because the Republican mantra these days is "Just do whatever pisses off liberals".

    Edit: And while i was typing this, we saw the news that she was confirmed. Say goodbye to education as we know it. And if you think this dim-witted idiot is going to improve things, you are braindead.
  21. Huntn macrumors G5


    May 5, 2008
    The Misty Mountains
    No God... ;)
  22. Moyank24 macrumors 601


    Aug 31, 2009
    in a New York State of mind

    Apparently lack of knowledge and/or experience is only relevant when we're talking about gun legislation. Then we have to hear all about how people who know nothing about guns shouldn't create policy.

    But our kids' education? Meh, no worries.
  23. samiwas macrumors 65816

    Aug 26, 2006
    Atlanta, GA
    There are numerous things that are simply not viable for privatization. Private industry cannot do everything better unless government is paying them to do it.

    Ask the people who keep slashing their budgets and their ability to teach.

    What is alternate reality like? I've heard about it, but since you come from there, maybe you can explain.
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    Couldn't have come up with a better analogy.
  24. steve knight macrumors 68020

    steve knight

    Jan 28, 2009
    wonder if we will see Amway selling classes now? like this person knows anything about schools. but he wishes are granted every day right. Thank you trump supporters its on your head s now.
  25. shyam09 macrumors 68000


    Oct 31, 2010
    I really hope not, but I voted yes. There aren't enough voices in Congress to ensure a definite no.

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