Poll: Obama daily approval negative going on 8 straight months

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  1. stubeeef macrumors 68030

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    Well the US woke up early on this dude. BHO went negative on the daily tracking poll and has stayed there since late June. There are some thinking it is possible for the GOP to take the House and Senate in November. While a bit of a stretch-the more BHO stays on TV the lower he goes.
    Now this is my Hope, Change I can believe in.
    If the GOP screws this one up, and it is likely lets face it, what a lost opportunity.
    In generic polls of RNC vs DNC the RNC has been up for awhile, of course if the Tea Party runs candidates and pull a Ross Perot-then the DNC wins again.
    Well either way BHO has lost the political capitol he once had with the population on whole (not in PRSI of course).

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  2. freeny macrumors 68020

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    I dont believe there is a single political body that has a positive report card right now. People are pretty angry at politicians in general.
     
  3. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    And so they should be, the US politicians are astonishingly incompetent.
     
  4. Dont Hurt Me macrumors 603

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    Congress has a lot of controls and the current batch is as screwed up as the republican batch before it. A president who cant get both of these idiot partys to compromise or find middle ground is sunk. I think Obama is trying but both partys put their party's stupid philosophy ahead of the countrys needs everytime. We just saw it with the Jobs Bill with a Dumba... Harry Reid and the party of No. Throw them all out! The only time they agree on something is when Big Corporations Pay off both sides. Prostitutes to the Multinational Corporations and little else. I almost feel sorry for Obama that he has to deal with these two childish party's.
     
  5. niuniu macrumors 68020

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    Shame, he had the the right idea on a lot of stuff. Just was perhaps too idealistic with his timelines for change. Either that or he lacked the muscle to make policy move. Politicians world over are distrusted in any case. Can't think of a world leader of any sort besides Putin that I actually like.
     
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    It cracks me up... there's a group of people who, when faced with GWB approval numbers consistently in the 20's, shouted that polls and approval ratings don't matter, he's the C-in-C, he's the decider, he does what he thinks is right without regard for public opinion, etc. Now these same people are rejoicing that Obama is polling around 50%, and shouting that it's the end of the Democrats as we know it.
     
  8. leekohler macrumors G5

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    Yep, and I bet the OP was one of them.
     
  9. stubeeef thread starter macrumors 68030

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    nevermind
     
  10. Macky-Mac macrumors 68030

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    a very real possibility;

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0210/32911.html#ixzz0fS0uethv
     
  11. stubeeef thread starter macrumors 68030

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    ya, like I had said before, the GOP is trying to slip into the movement. The movement is full of Democrats that are not "progressives", independents that regret their Obama vote, and many republicans. Of course according to the media and beliefs of many here it is just right wing redneck radicals.
    The Tea Party, imo, should remain a loose formation of fiscal conservatives that work from the outside to shape policy. Once they move to DC as legislators they become part of the problem. If the GOP thinks they are going to horn in they will get their butts beat. The only news in this poll is that many are upset with BHO and would retract that vote, and that the point this happened was earlier than the usual president has seen.
    You have to laugh when the Dems had a supermajority then blame the Reps for stopping things. Hilarious.
    And for the record, I would still vote for Bush over Kerry every day of the week and twice in Chicago.
     
  12. bobber205 macrumors 68020

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    Fillibuster?

    And I'm sorry the Dems don't consist of a group of people that think exactly like on every issue or are sheepish enough to be forced into breaking a fillibuster.
     
  13. yojitani macrumors 68000

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    Should tea baggers become more than a curious footnote to the quackery of early twentieth century politics in the USA, it would be high time to leave.

    P.s. Would it be too much to ask you Stu, if you could change your avatar? That face is really disturbing!:)
     
  14. scottness macrumors 65816

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    I think it's kind of endearing. You can turn off the ability to see them in your user options if it really bothers you that much.
     
  15. stubeeef thread starter macrumors 68030

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    What about Fillibusters?
    Are you suggesting that the Dems are or are not sheepish enough to be forced into breaking a fillibuster with their super majority?!:p
    WOW, just WOW.
     
  16. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    Don't you need 60 votes to break a filibuster?
     
  17. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    Yes, you lost a seat, so its not likely to be broken. I think the filibuster should return back to the "old way" where they actually had to take a stand until another opposer replaced them and so on. If the old ass republicans can keep it up for more than 48 hours I would be impressed.
     
  18. bobber205 macrumors 68020

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    The Democrats need to grow some balls and make them actually do this.
     
  19. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    I don't think they can anymore, I think there was a rule change. It used to be that as long as the dems didn't add anything to the agenda they had to vote on the current issue unless there was someone up there speaking. I don't know what exactly changed this (probably the old bastards complaining about having to stand to get their way).
     
  20. bobber205 macrumors 68020

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    There was never a rule change.
    There is an unwritten rule to not call them out on this.
     
  21. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    I see, I hadn't seen it done for a while so I figured something had changed. I might actually watch CSPAN if they forced them to speak.
     
  22. stubeeef thread starter macrumors 68030

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    Yep, that is what a supermajority is. So the GOP could not fillibuster while the Dems had 60 seats unless they could peel off an independent. The only people that were stopping the Dems from passing anything were the.....wait for it........it's coming.......THE DEMS!!!!
    Of course they had to blame the Republicans saying they were obstructing, when the FACT is the Reps couldn't stop an ant from crossing the street. They were so powerless the Dems wouldn't even let them in on the conversation and locked them out. So back to blame Bush and then GOP. The GOP has it's problems, let us not forgot, but to have a supermajority and blame the Republicans is like saying you can't go on vacation because a stranger didn't think it was a good time for you to go. That is why Bobber's post was so confusing, I don't think he/she knew what he/she was saying or didn't understand what a supermajority was and jumped on the Reps were obstructing...hilarious.
     
  23. 63dot macrumors 603

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    It's the short coattails I have seen with every President after Jimmy Carter.

    RR had the White House but often dealt with a very hostile House of Representatives. Both Bushes knew what it meant to get blocked. Clinton felt the backlash of the Newt Gingrich revolution of 1994. Obama had this narrow window of support, but if like precedent since the post-Carter days, he will have to deal with a House or Senate either not in control of his party, or not in step with his ideas.

    In the last 30 years, when one party takes the White House, the other party usually rallies in the same election, or a later one, to take control of either the House or the Senate.

    My guess is that a lot of the poor economy will be blamed on Obama and many will feel that he did little to help us in two years thus giving the GOP a chance to regain the House or Senate, or both. People pay very little attention to the polls when the Congress gets low numbers, and look to see how the President's rating is.

    Anything below 60% percent for POTUS and then you have a vulnerable party in midterms.

    South and central Midwest:

    the GOP stronghold will continue here

    Upper Midwest:

    GOP can gain seats

    Mountain states:

    another area where GOP can gain

    West coast and Northeast:

    will probably stay a Democratic stronghold

    I predict the GOP will definitely gain a slight majority in the Senate and may tighten the gap in the House (but this will not be as easy). The downside for Obama is that he will face more opposition. The upside is that if this country does not pull out of the wars and recession as fast as most Americans envisioned, then the blame can go around to both parties. If Obama's party retains control of Congress and we are still "recovering" inches at a time, then say hello to a Jindal or Romney in the White House (something that scares me to death).

    The only hope Obama can have if we are at November 2012 and we are still in recession is if a significant moderate-right or right wing force comes in as a third party, such as Palin (or similar maverick) fronting the Reform Party or the Tea Party with the backing of at least one strong supporter from the likes of Pat Robertson, Rush, Ann Coulter, or Mike Huckabee. This will have the 1992 effect when Ross Perot came in and split the conservative vote and made a condition where it left only one person (Clinton) vying for the liberal vote. With a country evenly split, Clinton got the White House. Despite the landslide in 2008, America was still pretty evenly split and Obama won not on his message, but on people's anger against George W. Bush.

    I think the President is yet to have true believers and the only way he can get street cred is to "appear" to be a leader bringing us out of the recession decisively. Once out, going from deficit to surplus won't be unthinkable. And the real measure of pulling out of this recession is success combating high unemployment and woes of main street. Any idiot can pull out Wall Street and the Fortune 500s and government help to big auto in the '80s and bankers after '08 did not score any brownie points.
     
  24. Rt&Dzine macrumors 6502a

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    If they do, it'll be interesting to see the Teabaggers fade out.
     
  25. stubeeef thread starter macrumors 68030

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    Well, the Tea Party will fade out IF the party in power cuts costs, reigns in spending, stops bailing out private enterprise. BUT they will be mad as h3ll if the next group-Rep or Dem doesn't do it, especially if the newly elected promise to do it. IMHO
     

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