[Poll] Should Halloween be changed to last Saturday of October?

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by Solomani, Oct 31, 2018.

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Should Halloween be changed to last Saturday of October?

Poll closed Nov 14, 2018.
  1. YES. If it's better for kids, parents, and retail sales, why not?

    7 vote(s)
    15.9%
  2. NO. It's a tradition. Stop breaking tradition, you heathens!

    33 vote(s)
    75.0%
  3. MEH. It's a fake holiday to begin with. I don't care either way.

    4 vote(s)
    9.1%
  1. Solomani, Oct 31, 2018
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    Solomani macrumors 68040

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    Thousands petition to change Halloween to last Saturday of October




    Poll. Should we break the (decades-old) tradition of Halloween falling on October 31st?

    I'm sorta ambivalent to this, as I don't normally celebrate Halloween. I also work in health care, which means I take care of patients whether it's the night shift, on Federal holidays, or even having to work at least one weekend a month. Thus I hardly give a crap about most holidays. But I also work with friends who would actually call in sick to work just so they can party on Halloween.

    But I also understand the reasoning for this change/petition: the business establishment wants to change Halloween to maximize their business profits, sales, etc. Read the fine line, and you realize that this petition, which goes directly to Trump's office, is spearheaded by a league of costume and party retailers.

    If I recall correctly, this change simply requires a Presidential approval. Many many US Presidents in the past have used their executive power to change and modify and even create official Holidays as they saw fit. Come to think of it, the POTUS inherited this executive power from the Roman Emperors, who created hundreds of Imperial-sanctioned festival days, mostly to distract the populus from more important problems plaguing the Empire — give them bread and circuses (and they won't have time to revolt).
     
  2. shinji macrumors 65816

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    I don't want to deal with early morning trick-or-treaters on a Saturday.
     
  3. bradl macrumors 68040

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    I voted no, but for different reasons than you have above.

    All Hallow's Eve falls on Samhain, which has been a religious holiday for a hell of a lot longer than this country has been in existence. If anything the 1A would effectively prevent us from moving this holiday, as much as it would prevent us from moving Christmas. The very basis of it being a religion should keep us from doing anything with it, just as it would prevent us from mucking with Christmas, Hannukah, Kwanzaa, Beltaine, Rosh Hashanah, and others.

    BL.
     
  4. The-Real-Deal82 macrumors 604

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    I wish they hadn’t imported Halloween to my country at all. Another hyped up commercial event to make shops lots of extra profit. It seems to get bigger and bigger each year.

    Ironically even the local churches get in on it lol.
     
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    Imported? For the most, it STARTED in your country! :p

    Samhain started in what is present-day Ireland, the UK, and France! That was on Oct. 31st!

    http://www.ireland-information.com/articles/irishhalloweentraditions.htm

    BL.
     
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    Nah, keep it as is. When it’s on weekdays, things wrap up early and that’s fine with us. Our neighborhood has aged and the number of kids has dwindled quite a bit. But, we live in a culdesac and it’s extremely convenient for outlying rural areas to "bus" in groups of kids to our street. Luckily, that has slowed way down too.

    I know, kind of a bah humbug attitude but it’s really a pain the rear answering the door and pissing away an entire early evening on that crap. When it’s on weekends things just go later with more of a chance of hoodlum activity later on. No thanks.
     
  8. RichardMZhlubb Contributor

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    Halloween isn’t a legal holiday. It has no federal governmental authorization. I don’t see how the president can change it.
     
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    I'm torn. 5 out of 7 years idiots get to get drunk and celebrate twice. Could be 7 of out of 7. Hate that. Yet, a revenue generator...
     
  10. Thomas Veil macrumors 68020

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    No.

    If anything, I’d like to discourage the practice of “alternative“ Halloween activities. You know, the ones designed, often by churches, to give children a “safe“ place to go... for which the impetus, in turn, was those (mainly) urban legends about people putting poison in candy. (The razor blade meme even shows up in the movie “Halloween II”.)

    I always envisioned little children asking their parents, “Mommy? Why are all my friends having fun walking up and down the street, and we’re here?“.
     
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    Our neighborhood church had a Fall Festival sign for Oct31, 6pm. Come be sanitized. :) Can’t they just say Halloween? :)

    Growing up and as an adult with young kids, I loved to go out and walk the neighborhood that night. The streets were lined with little and not so little, goblins, wear wolves, witches, Jedi, fairies, etc. It took on a magical quality. Those feelings have evaporated for me. My wife was out of town and Last night I had the front porch light off. :(

    Oct 31 seems like the date to have it.
     
  12. Solomani, Nov 1, 2018
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    The USA is like Apple Inc. We steal ideas from other cultures. And then we make it bigger, better, costlier, and it works right. :p
     
  13. DearthnVader macrumors 6502a

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    Can we have one thing that isn't about maximizing profits.

    Pretty much, down south, most door to door trick or treat has been replaced by car trunk or treat in a parking lot. It's a shame, kids to lazy to walk a few miles while eating all that sugar, however it's likely better than them walking into traffic while trying to snapchat etc.

    We don't need the Federal government to monkey with Halloween.
     
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    In Hoston, at least my neighborhood, it’s a traffic jam as people haul their kids around? :oops:
     
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    I mean America has an obesity problem, and I should point out that extends to parents. Parents don't want to, or flat out can't, walk a few miles.

    Times have changed a lot, too many parents don't restrict kids access to sugars. I mean when I was a kid, my parents didn't buy us a bunch of sugars, snack cakes, soda, candy, cocoa puffs etc.

    Halloween was fun because of the candy and the costumes, and the way some people went all out to scare a bunch of over sugared kids.
     
  17. AlliFlowers Contributor

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    Let it just remain All Saints. It's like Mardi Gras. It's a religious holiday that has been coopted into frivolity for the masses.

    Why not create a day on the last Saturday night of July and call it National Dress Up and Beg night.
     
  18. Huntn macrumors P6

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    In 1963 as a 10 year old, a friend and I would go out and roam the neighborhood on our own, as basically all kids did. Times have changed.
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    Halloween is anchored unchangebly to the Fall. No argument! ;)
     
  19. RichardMZhlubb Contributor

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    I come back to what I said before. An executive order on this will have no legal effect. Halloween is not a legal holiday. And, it would just result in some people celebrating on the traditional date and some on the last Saturday of the month. This is an incredibly silly idea.
     
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    We have, in the past, had severe weather on Halloween, causing the mayor to say that Trick or Treating would take place the following Saturday. Huh? What? Is Trick or Treat the holiday?
     
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    City planning sort of went out the window with the great white exodus to suburban America. There is still some urban upscale neighborhoods, but they tend to be older people without young kids.

    Suburbs tend to lack sidewalks or have really busy streets that connect them, and a lot of parents want to protect their kids, fearing they will be in too much traffic trying to walk form street to street.

    I'm not trying to come off as racist here, just pointing out some things that did happen, and how they effect the changes in Halloween. Of course door to door trick or treating is still alive and well in a lot of areas, and those areas are multi cultural and multi ethnic.
     
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    Like others have said, keep it on the 31st. If it lands on a weekday so be it. Most adults, who have parties, usually have the party on the Saturday before anyways.
     
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    I was just saying times have changed. :) When our son was of trick or treat age in the 1990s, I would escort him and friend(s) on foot. The 91 Halloween Blizzard was a lot of fun, really! But I also liked cool, clear nights in the 40s (temp). :)
     
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    One of my parents would often escort us, but I think that was more to protect others form us, than it was the other way around.:D

    I'm the middle of seven, three older, and three younger. If the older kids wanted to go out alone on the streets close by or even escort the younger ones on those streets, that was fine. However there were not a lot of kids on the streets close by, so not a lot of porch lights were on. We wanted the biggest candy haul we could get, and that meant walking to other neighborhoods further away. People our parents didn't know, and people that didn't know our parents.

    24 hour news, and a few sensationalized local and national cases of missing and presumed abducted kids changed the way a lot of America views protecting their children.
     
  25. RichardMZhlubb Contributor

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    It’s not a federal holiday (or even a state holiday anywhere, as far as I know), but local cities and towns do often adopt regulations on when kids can trick or treat. I remember when I was a kid, my town decided that it was too dangerous to have kids out trick or treating after dark and required that everyone go out between 4:00 and 6:00. It was dumb and I doubt that it was even enforceable. But, in any event, it’s nothing that the president can regulate.
     

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