Poll: This is the actual healthcare bill. Would you vote for or against it?

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by kavika411, Jul 15, 2009.

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This is the actual healthcare bill. Would you vote for or against it

Poll closed Jul 29, 2009.
  1. For

    17 vote(s)
    39.5%
  2. Against

    26 vote(s)
    60.5%
  1. kavika411 macrumors 6502a

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    Hahahahaha, that is classic.
     
  4. Unspoken Demise macrumors 68040

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  5. leekohler macrumors G5

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    Could someone paraphrase? I'm at work and don't have time to read it.
     
  6. Unspoken Demise macrumors 68040

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    Its 1,018 pages long. No one has time to read it.
    So just say yes.
     
  7. kavika411 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Edit: No longer relevant now that the poll has been corrected. Thanks to the moderator who fixed it.
     
  8. danpass macrumors 68020

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    I don't even have to read it.

    I voted NO




    tort reform to modify the impact of malpractice suits (and the subsequent high cost of malpractice insurance) will lower costs.




    yeah, yeah I know its all about .gov control ... whatever.


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  10. leekohler macrumors G5

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    I can't really say. I don't have time to read it right now.

    Tort reform has already been shown to have little or no effect on health care costs.
     
  11. danpass macrumors 68020

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    well the no-limit-suits have certainly had an effect ;)
     
  12. beatzfreak macrumors 6502

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    if I were a member of the House or Senate, I wouldn't need to read it. I would just check my bank account and see which lobbyists gave me the most money and vote accordingly.
     
  13. leekohler macrumors G5

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    I voted NO I wouldn't vote for or against it.

    Now had there been an actual real poll I might consider it. I've been in PRSI long enough to know everyone has an agenda.
    Since the agenda here is confusing I'm guessing......

    well...you get the rest..
     
  15. kavika411 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Try reading the edit to the original post and/or post #7.
     
  16. danpass macrumors 68020

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  18. kavika411 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Deserved. ;)
     
  19. solvs macrumors 603

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    Having read detailed synopsis (sorry, best I could do), I'd say NO... because it doesn't go far enough. Something more comprehensive could actually save us money overall. This is a stop gap with lots of little caveats thrown in for those who won't vote on it anyway. So they can say it's failed before it's even started, just as they already are about the slow to start stimulus that hasn't even really started, that actual experts say also isn't enough.

    Or we could recognize that the system is broken (I defy anyone to actually be able to say that it isn't), that 80% of the population wants major reforms (even Republicans), and actually model it after a mixed system (complete with oversight) that actually works (similar to Germany, but not quite), while actually promoting it to the public, instead of letting the talking heads who are wrong about everything all the time steer the argument, while the not so liberal media repeats it ad naseum in the interest of being "fair" (facts be damned).
     
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    Link?

    Seeing as the font is absolutely huge, it isn't as long as you think. You could probably fit it on 100 pages of normally sized font - maybe less.
     
  22. it5five macrumors 65816

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    That and the margins seem to be very large. There are maybe 4-5 words on each line.
     
  23. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    I voted no and will not support a bill like that until it has 2 things are answered my satisfaction

    1. How are we going to pay for it? Health care is not free and with out acquitted and acceptable funding it is nothing but a feel good.

    2. How are run away rising health care cost are going to be brought under control. With out bring runaway rising cost under control answering 1 is impossible.


    Those are 2 key facts everyone seems to be completely passing over. Right now the "universal health care" idea for the US is nothing more than a "feel good action"
     
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    I ROFL'd :D
     
  25. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    Nearly as many words as the new testament according to word count. Just saying, its pretty damn lengthy no matter how many pages are in it.
     

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