Porn: Conservatives are the biggest consumers

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by leekohler, Mar 11, 2009.

  1. leekohler macrumors G5

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    Well, well, well...

    http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Business/story?id=6977202&page=1

     
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    I thought the conservative philosophy has always been "Do as I say, not as I do".

    This isnt really shocking given how hypocritical they tend to be as of late.
     
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    please, liberals are cut of the same cloth.....
     
  5. leekohler thread starter macrumors G5

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    My theory is this- those of us who have sex don't need porn as much. ;)

    Umm...if you'd like to write ABC and challenge their article. Feel free.
     
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    I heard from multiple mormons (mainly exmormons) that BYU has the most students addicted to porn out of any college. Makes sense, religion just makes people hypocrites. Like back in the day when everyone masturbated, yet everyone said they didn't and condemned anyone who admitted it.
     
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    my point is liberals arent any better than conservatives (not talking about this topic but in general)

    but wahtever, everyone has thier bias right
     
  8. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    Well duh.

    But how bout we keep the points to the topic unless you feel like starting another thread?
     
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    this thread serves no purpose other than to make fun or whatever of conservatives

    sorry if i try to remind people liberals are just as bad

    im done with this thread, ive said my peace lol
     
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    Funny, i thought this thread was to show hypocritical behavior.
     
  11. CalBoy macrumors 604

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    In terms of pornography, it seems about the same (although as the article points out, conservative states consume more of it).

    The real point is that conservatives who tout "family values" have been hoist with their own petards.

    The irony is what's funny here.

    When liberals begin to do things that are counter to their message, then we can have a chuckle at that as well.
     
  12. leekohler thread starter macrumors G5

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    No- the point is to show that the people who scream the loudest against it, are yet again the people who are doing it the most.

    Hey man, I'm just fine with porn.
     
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    What's wrong with porn? :p


    Also correlation does not imply causation. Unless they can prove the people who subscribed to porn sites are also conservative. How can you be certain?

    Besides it makes sense that liberals who like porn skew communist so they probably would use free porn sites. Therefore they wouldn't show up under subscribers.

    :)
     
  14. pooky macrumors 6502

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    Exactly. This study is beyond dubious. All it really says is that conservative states have higher per-capita porn consumption. It doesn't say that conservatives are actually consuming the porn. Maybe liberals in conservative states have a harder time finding other liberals to have sex with, so use more porn. Maybe some third factor is more related to online porn. Conservative states tend to be rural - maybe it's just a function of distance to the closest place to buy porn in person. Conservative states also have less porn available to buy in person, which could (and probably does) drive up online sales. This is a non-story until they do individual surveys.

    Even if it's true, that conservatives buy more porn than liberals, it doesn't say anything about which conservatives or why. Maybe it's mostly libertarians. Conservatives tend to be wealthier, maybe they can afford more porn. Calling anyone hypocritical, even in the abstract, based on these data is a huge overreaction.

    Find a stash of gay porn in Fred Phelps's bedroom, then we can talk.
     
  15. Sun Baked macrumors G5

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    I would have thought the biggest consumers of porn were priests and politicians, at least on a per capita basis.
     
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    Well, it would seem unlikely that only the liberals in a conservative state are watching porn.

    That's right, those hippy liberals believe porn should be free.

    Of course, the counter to this would be the Walmart crowd are probably more likely to worry about spending money on porn, and so the number of conservative porn viewers might be even higher.
     
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    How is conservative defined here? Registered republican? I know plenty of republicans who love their porn and defend the rights of others to view it as they wish. The anti-porn crowd is really a small portion of the so-called right-leaning populace. I also know a lot of democrats and liberals, particularly traditional feminists, who are seriously anti-porn. Let's just admit it though, that most (though not all) people, liberal or conservative, who happened to come into view of a video of a couple having intercourse or engaging in some other pleasurable sexual activity would not turn their eyes away in horror, unless of course they realized that someone had observed them watching it. Anyone here care to fess up regarding their porn watching proclivities?
     
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    I keep looking for home movies of MacRumors Members -- and I cannot find much. :(
     
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    You can search Lee Kohler in IMDB ;)
     
  20. rhsgolfer33 macrumors 6502a

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    Your thread title and the article title are absolutely misleading. The study doesn't prove that at all. The study only shows a correlation between which candidate a states electoral votes went to in the last election and porn consumption. Really, all he has proved with the way he conducted this study is that certain states consume more porn than others, its hardly proof that the conservatives in those states are the ones purchasing the porn.

    I'd be very interested to see more information on their statistics, such as, how strong the correlation actually is, etc.

    I love media abuse of statistics, lets increase Americans ignorance by misrepresenting what the numbers actually mean, yay!

    And how many conservatives actually cry foul about porn? None that I know, thats for sure, of course California conservative are a little different.

    The study certainly has no proof either way. The study itself as conducted does not prove that conservatives consume more porn than liberals. There could be a correlation between being a person that eats two pieces of bread and getting rectal cancer, but does that mean eating two pieces of bread a day causes rectal cancer? Certainly not. The correlation could be really low, but its still possible to say there is a correlation. So there is a correlation between being a conservative state and consuming slightly more porn than a liberal or moderate state, does that mean that being a conservative state causes you to consume more porn? The answer to that question isn't very difficult to determine. And you certainly cannot draw the conclusion that being conservative causes you to consume more porn from the study. I don't put much weight to any study until specific information about methods and actual correlation and margin of error numbers are shown.


    And can we back up a minute, people actually pay for porn?
     
  21. pooky macrumors 6502

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    I agree with that sentiment, although I think you're giving the media far too much credit. I don't think they abuse the numbers for any nefarious purpose, I think most reporters are not well-educated enough to understand them themselves. I've met with and given interviews to a fair number of science reporters. Generally, they have good journalism credentials and an interest in science, but no training beyond a subscription to National Geographic. Had they subscribed to Sports Illustrated, they'd be on the sports page instead.
     
  22. leekohler thread starter macrumors G5

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    Yep- I'm there. I just wish they'd update that list. There's a lot more than what's there. I guess I'll have to suck it up and pay the $25 to get my pic up there and edit the list of credits. I was just in another too, but that's still in production.

    Oh please- that's easy. I love porn. I watch it on a regular basis.
     
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    This has been big news in Utah the past few days (obviously) and I think that there is a simple explanation.

    Areas of the country which are highly religious and or conservative (though I don't think conservativeness alone applies here) will tend to have laws making Porn less available in retail form (adult bookstores etc) and also, those communities tend to have a stigma about viewing it as well.

    So you have a place like Utah, people here are generally religious, Porn is looked down upon in the public sphere. But everybody has that natural attraction to sex (it's got an obvious purpose) and if that attraction is not addressed through a sexual relationship with another person, the person will generally look for ways to deal with the "frustration" (as it's commonly called) elsewhere. Remember that people in these locations are generally far less sexually promiscuous than in other less religious parts of the country.

    So imagine you live in a religious community where Porn consumption is frowned upon, imagine even that you are a religious member of that community. Where are you going to be likely to go should your succumb to an impulse to view pornography? Are you going to be seen walking into the adult bookstore, or are you going to look it up online in the privacy of your own home? I think we all know that answer right?

    All it says is something about the community dynamics in these locations. I'd be willing to bet that Pornography consumption is just as high anywhere in the country, but that a larger percentage is consumed in the form of magazines, and movies purchased in a retail location.

    Yeah religious folks espouse a disapproval of pornography, but everybody has their needs. People are going to fall into it no matter what, the availability of it anonymously on the net only serves to increase the chance that somebody will look at it from time to time. I'd be willing to bet that a higher percentage of people in these locations are actually seeking professional help to kick the porn habit as well. People in these locations are more than likely not wanting to continue to view it, but it can become an addiction, especially when used to "self medicate" for a lack of sexual activity.

    SLC
     
  24. leekohler thread starter macrumors G5

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    Gotta tell ya, SLC, I don't know the last time I bought porn in the form of mags or DVDs. Nobody I know does it that way anymore either. It's mainly on line.

    Again- my theory, like yours- the people who are doing it don't need to look at it as much. I really do think it's that simple.
     
  25. hulugu macrumors 68000

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    Exactly. There's no real information here.

    For the good stuff. ;)

    Also, a good question.

    Porn is fun.

    Pervert. ;)

    They should make everyone carry their laptops in brown paper-bag.

    Hey, a new phrase for masturbation, as in "Jimmy's been in the bathroom for an hour, I think he's self-medicating."

    This thread is fun.
     

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