Possible ‘iPad Mini’ Spotted in iOS App Developer Logs

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Instapaper developer Marco Arment has spotted two new iPad device codes in his logs that he believes represents the long rumored "iPad mini".

The new identifiers found were "iPad2,5" and "iPad2,6". As Arment notes, the iPad2,1 through iPad 2,3 designations are known to represent the iPad 2's WiFi, GSM and CDMA models. The iPad2,4 represents a die-shrunk/cheaper version of the iPad 2 that was released alongside the 3rd generation iPad. Finally, the 3rd Generation iPad carries a designation of iPad3,x.

iPad Mini mockup (left) by iMore
As for "iPad2,5" and "iPad2,6", they have not been seen before, but Arment concludes they are likely to be the long rumored 'iPad mini' which is based on iPad 2 hardware.
The much more likely explanation is that iPad2,5 and iPad2,6 are the new "iPad Mini" in Wi-Fi and GSM, and I haven't recorded the likely iPad2,7 CDMA version yet.

If so, this suggests that the iPad Mini is, effectively, an iPad 2: an A5 with 512 MB of RAM and enough GPU power to drive the Gruber Display, but not a Retina Display.

It's a textbook Tim Cook supply-chain move: selling the last generation's hardware at a lower price point to expand marketshare.
By "Gruber Display", Arment refers to John Gruber's speculation that a iPad Mini made sense as a 7.85" display that shares the same resolution as the original iPad (1024x768). Arment goes into a little further depth in his blog post about his speculation on the internals of the iPad mini.

Apple is believed to be launching a smaller 7.85" iPad in the coming months. Rumors have suggested we'll see it launched as early as October.

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laxic

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Makes sense to me, though I am just happy to see that a gsm / potentially LTE model will be available!
 

Andronicus

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I want an iPad mini, but I really don't want Apple to take a step backwards in the screen department. My iPhone 4 screen puts my OG iPad screen to shame.
 

Anti-Lucifer

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Apple has become the walmart of smartphones, tablets, and now mini-tablets.

I do not understand the appeal of a 1024x768 resolution tablet. Even at 7.85", it's merely 1.85" smaller than the iPad and if you look at the nexus 7, it has higher resolution than this ipad.

Unless they do something with the pixel density to make it look magical, it's just another garbage ipad. I like the the size but I do not like how apple recycles their components like this. There is nothing innovative at all.

Judging from the leaks on the iphone 2012, apple is on a downward trend of producing crap! I'm sorry but it seems after SJ has departed, apple is now run by bean counters in suits. I'm not surprised if jony ives decides to retire.
 

appleguy123

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I want an iPad mini, but I really don't want Apple to take a step backwards in the screen department. My iPhone 4 screen puts my OG iPad screen to shame.
The main focus for this device will almost certainly be affordability. Because of this, certain omissions are acceptable, especially when you consider that it's likely that Apple wants customers with enough disposable income to buy the bigger iPad.

I'm not expecting a retina display or LTE. Maybe no rear camera, or one similar in quality to the iPad 2.
 

Theclamshell

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I have a question about this iPad mini. Will developers have to re make applications to fit the new screen size or will iOS automatically scale them down to fit on the screen?
 

Anti-Lucifer

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Powerbook G5?

I have a question about this iPad mini. Will developers have to re make applications to fit the new screen size or will iOS automatically scale them down to fit on the screen?
scale what down? it's 1024x768 it runs all the ipad apps natively.
 

Anti-Lucifer

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The only way this will be popular enough is if the price point is $199. Please don't add $129 for LTE it's just apple's price gouging. I think $199 with LTE will just flatten the entire tablet market and apple will increase their domination.

WhenI mentioned this to be another 'garbage ipad' - i meant it figuratively because it does not bring anything innovative to the table. The iPad 2 is no weak sauce at all. Performance wise, it's still extremely solid performer. I just think if they can do $200 or lower with LTE, you are talking about crazy sales. I'd pick one up just for kicks because I can take it around much easier than my existing iPad 3.

But i frown upon 1024x768 because clearly you can see apple NOT pushing technology forward but going backwards. You want mass acceptance of 1024x768???
 

nagromme

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Apple has become the walmart of smartphones, tablets, and now mini-tablets.

I do not understand the appeal of a 1024x768 resolution tablet. Even at 7.85", it's merely 1.85" smaller than the iPad and if you look at the nexus 7, it has higher resolution than this ipad.

Unless they do something with the pixel density to make it look magical, it's just another garbage ipad. I like the the size but I do not like how apple recycles their components like this. There is nothing innovative at all.

Judging from the leaks on the iphone 2012, apple is on a downward trend of producing crap! I'm sorry but it seems after SJ has departed, apple is now run by bean counters in suits. I'm not surprised if jony ives decides to retire.
A lower-end model (cheaper, more portable, but otherwise the same as the outstanding iPad 2) is not a “downward trend.” It’s just a lower-end model. To see a trend you’d have to see Apple also eliminate the high-end iPad 3. You’d also have to use this new iPad before you judged it on rumor alone.

1024x768 may be the best solution for this unit. If so, a retina display will come in time, as prices for it fall. (You don’t see any other 8” 2048x1536 devices out there either.)

And the Nexus does have higher DPI—a side effect of having a much smaller screen than an 8” iPad would have! And yet an iPad mini might (we’ll see) fit that big(-ish) screen into a unit not much larger than a Nexus. The Nexus would be all the bulk but none of the screen size or app selection.
 

nagromme

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But i frown upon 1024x768 because clearly you can see apple NOT pushing technology forward but going backwards. You want mass acceptance of 1024x768???
Technology isn’t just spec numbers on a list. Technology is what you can DO with something. So many companies are circling the drain because they don’t understand that.
 

Rachel Faith

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Two versions ... my bet on the prices is 199,00 and 249,00 ... although if they want my money, without Retina it's better gonna be 149,00 and 199,00 !!!
Yes, I agree and hope so too. Maybe that's why they have TWO numbers in the wild. I would buy one of each.
 

liavman

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The only way this will be popular enough is if the price point is $199. Please don't add $129 for LTE it's just apple's price gouging. I think $199 with LTE will just flatten the entire tablet market and apple will increase their domination.

WhenI mentioned this to be another 'garbage ipad' - i meant it figuratively because it does not bring anything innovative to the table. The iPad 2 is no weak sauce at all. Performance wise, it's still extremely solid performer. I just think if they can do $200 or lower with LTE, you are talking about crazy sales. I'd pick one up just for kicks because I can take it around much easier than my existing iPad 3.

But i frown upon 1024x768 because clearly you can see apple NOT pushing technology forward but going backwards. You want mass acceptance of 1024x768???
Why all this negativity? Think of it as a lower priced iPad 2 with a smaller size.
They may eventually come up with a retina display iPad mini when they can produce it at a reasonable cost that can sell at a good profit. Remember, every year, they sell a more capable model at the same price.

You want Apple to push the technology forward and still reduce the price. As someone who has a few shares of Apple, hope they do not go too far in that direction. I want them to be aggressive in price that is consistent with competition but not lower than that just to grab the market share. That game is eventually a loser's game. Look at HP and Dell today.
 

All Taken

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The only way this will be popular enough is if the price point is $199. Please don't add $129 for LTE it's just apple's price gouging. I think $199 with LTE will just flatten the entire tablet market and apple will increase their domination.

WhenI mentioned this to be another 'garbage ipad' - i meant it figuratively because it does not bring anything innovative to the table. The iPad 2 is no weak sauce at all. Performance wise, it's still extremely solid performer. I just think if they can do $200 or lower with LTE, you are talking about crazy sales. I'd pick one up just for kicks because I can take it around much easier than my existing iPad 3.

But i frown upon 1024x768 because clearly you can see apple NOT pushing technology forward but going backwards. You want mass acceptance of 1024x768???
You want a 7.85" iPad with a higher than 1024x768 resolution, so retina screen and you want LTE, all for $199?!?!??

How about a smoke and a pancake too!

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Looking forward to having a play with one!
That's what she said!
 

archurban

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I will see. if they will rise resolution, I doubt that I will buy (I like google next 7 table resolution 1280x800). but I don't expect retina display because it will make ipad mini cost highly. by the way, I highly doubt that apple will take NO.1 in 7 inch tablet market. entire situation has been changed in this time. I don't think so. I hope that Google nexus 7 will live a long life.
 

davidgnomo

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Yes, I agree and hope so too. Maybe that's why they have TWO numbers in the wild. I would buy one of each.
I know Apple probably doesn't care, but if it's more than 149,00 and 199,00 I won't buy ! I know there's a lot of people that will love to spend +200,00 to get the mini Ipad, but knowing iPad 3 and how much better it is, I would feel dumb to pay too much for a smaller non retina device !