a buddy of mine is looking at getting a refurbished 15" aluminum powerbook and noticed that the price went down $100 in the last day. i went to apple's refurbished store site to see that all powerbooks have come down in price, some more than others. you can get an 867mhz 12" combo drive for $1049 !!! i think this means powerbook updates are getting closer and closer. regardless of if its gonna be a G5 (doubt it), its a good sign.