nuckinfutz

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Originally posted by rice_web
I bet we still won't see these in PowerMacs until 2004.

Really? How much? I've got $20 that says Apple does ship a PPC 970 system in 2003. Any takers? Or should I say ...Givers ;)

A 2003 ship date is right on schedule for the PPC 970. Volume production is listed as 2H 2003. Now the next hurdle is ...will Apple use them. If the above reports are true then we have a resounding YES!
 

Dj Kioto

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parlez vouz france?

does anyone have a translation of this article, i saw the tidbit on whispers at work... but I'd like an accurate non-google trans...
 

Mac OS X Addict

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Just one question. How reliable are these guys? If there track record is good, Mac Users everywhere will be dancing in the streets and the PC users will want to join in. :)
 

phampton81

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This is great news if it is true, but does anyone know how long it takes to go from this stage to actually announcing that particular product? Or even just a timeframe? Thanks
 

nuckinfutz

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Originally posted by Mac OS X Addict
Just one question. How reliable are these guys? If there track record is good, Mac Users everywhere will be dancing in the streets and the PC users will want to join in. :)

Macwhispers is new. They're still unkown but the blew it with their iPod predictions.

Macbidouille has had a couple of hits in the past. They probably have a couple of decent contacts.
 

ibookin'

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Here's Sherlocks Translation...

Here still some rumours on the future machines containing PPC 970.

- APPLE finalized the drawing of the mother boards containing PPC 970
(for Xserve and the machine pro). - the firm launched an invitation to
tender near Taiwanais manufacturers for the manufacture of these
products. 2 will be retained.

The card of the machine pro, would be much longer and narrow that what
one currently has. We let to you imagine the shape of the future case
which will contain it...

Though I don't know French, this translation seems pretty good...
 

reyesmac

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I hope these new Powermacs will be fast enough to make the PC crowd shut up about underpowered Macs and gets the Mac crowd to see how underpowered the rest of Apples lineup is once these debut at a nice price. Then maybe Apple can get these in the rest of its Macs in less time it took to get the G4's in the iMacs. Because if it waits to make the rest of their machines up to the competitions speeds, they arent going to raise their marketshare one bit. Not by just selling Powermacs anyway.
 

beatle888

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yea, i already read this in another thread. that translation sounds the same as what i read earlier.
 

Coca-Cola

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hmmm... I can imagine something... Something a lot like a mixing of the xserve metal and the current powermacs handles. That would rock.
 

nuckinfutz

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Originally posted by reyesmac
I hope these new Powermacs will be fast enough to make the PC crowd shut up about underpowered Macs and gets the Mac crowd to see how underpowered the rest of Apples lineup is once these debut at a nice price. Then maybe Apple can get these in the rest of its Macs in less time it took to get the G4's in the iMacs. Because if it waits to make the rest of their machines up to the competitions speeds, they arent going to raise their marketshare one bit. Not by just selling Powermacs anyway.

As long as they offer Dual Machines. Right now the 1.8Ghz PPC 970 is equivalent to roughly a P4 2.8Ghz-3Ghz. That won't be enough by September .If Apple could shoehorn a Dual in there,even it it was more expensive than the current Dual 1.4Ghz G4 Powermacs, we'd be ahead. Maybe not on single apps but any kind of Multitasking would just blaze on a dual 970 system with the fastes RAM available.
 

MacWhispers

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Again, sorry about adding some guesswork to my iPod data, and, thus, missing the whole shebang. However, everything posted to MacWhispers insofar as raw information from OEM/ODM sources is true.

It's funny to watch other "rumor" sites restate my reports... :)
 

squatch

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Apple and AMD??

I don't know now about the IBM chip...I'm still hoping for sure...but after reading LoopRumors.com...they seem to have inside sources that state a former rumor mentioned on here...an AMD/Apple alliance to make a PPC chip.

I wouldn't mind either one since I'm big fans of both chips. Either way, we win! :D
 

squatch

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Macwhispers going away?

Originally posted by MacWhispers
Again, sorry about adding some guesswork to my iPod data, and, thus, missing the whole shebang. However, everything posted to MacWhispers insofar as raw information from OEM/ODM sources is true.

It's funny to watch other "rumor" sites restate my reports... :)

I thought MacWhispers was changing their format and not doing rumor predictions anymore, or were going away?? I love the site and hope it sticks around for a long time, but I thought I heard on here we were losing MacWhispers.com. Can someone confirm the truth here? :confused:
 

squatch

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Germanium??

Originally posted by Coca-Cola
Hey, you can have your 3.6 Intel. I will take the 970. I have one word for you GERMANIUM.

Germanium meaning??? Is that the element their going to manufacture the new 970s with?? :confused:
 

NavyIntel007

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dude, one thing I read on this site that just kills me is how everyone thinks 64 bit will equal twice the performance. This is not true. For 32 bit operations and optimized programs, there will not be a speed increase. For 64 bit operations there will be obviously massive increases. No doubt though about it being faster, just not as much as everyone is screaming about.
 

nuckinfutz

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Originally posted by NavyIntel007
dude, one thing I read on this site that just kills me is how everyone thinks 64 bit will equal twice the performance. This is not true. For 32 bit operations and optimized programs, there will not be a speed increase. For 64 bit operations there will be obviously massive increases. No doubt though about it being faster, just not as much as everyone is screaming about.

Exactly they should be more excited by

1. A Memory Bandwidth of 7.2Gbps(6.4 realized)

2. 8 was superscaler

3. Altivec

4. G4 Bit capability without the 32bit penalty.

Now If I could just get a schematic of the Motherboard. We need a leak!
 

Sol

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Originally posted by reyesmac
I hope these new Powermacs will be fast enough to make the PC crowd shut up about underpowered Macs and gets the Mac crowd to see how underpowered the rest of Apples lineup is once these debut at a nice price. Then maybe Apple can get these in the rest of its Macs in less time it took to get the G4's in the iMacs. Because if it waits to make the rest of their machines up to the competitions speeds, they arent going to raise their marketshare one bit. Not by just selling Powermacs anyway.

If you ask me it is the Mac crowd that is doing all the whining about G4 speeds. PC users don't really care as they prefer to run Windows anyway.
 

Coca-Cola

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GERMANIUM. IBM is leading this chip technology right now. Germanium is better than Silicon and copper for chip making. Intel is going to get into some serious problems in the future with power usage and waste. Germanium is IBM's secret weapon. It isn't going to be in the 970, but the future of IBM chips is going to be a bright one.
 

beatle888

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dont forget the masses amounts of true ddr ram...


not much of a speed increase hehehehe:D :cool:

with all that in your post and the new ram increases....oh man, i cant wait. and im sure they'll go metal or ultra clear and possibly use that new fiber optic (or whatever) effect to make the case actually be a projected image :D

damn, does anyone have that link about how apple has patented something to make the outside of the computers case change in color and possibly display images?
 
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