President Obama to accept unlimited corporate donations for inauguration event

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    I'm surprised (not!) that nobody here has commented on this story yet.

    What's the prevailing opinion on here about this? Seems sorta hipocritical to me!

    http://www.boston.com/politicalintelligence/2012/12/07/reversal-president-obama-accept-corporate-donations-help-fund-inauguration/SnlURsspmd74BhuaUVxmYN/story.html
     
  2. Carlanga macrumors 604

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    Why you cut off the title? is missing: "to help fund inauguration" (That is not transparent from you :p)

    Not to me, I think the issue is not so much the unlimited funding, but who is behind it and they are trying to be as "transparent" as possible. Inauguration funding is not such a big deal as funding to run for president in my book.

    From your own link:
    “To ensure continued transparency, all names of donors will be posted to a regularly updated website.”

    The committee is still barring lobbyists and political action committees from donating. They are establishing a system for vetting such donations, and won’t accept donations from corporations that accepted stimulus funding and haven’t paid the money back, for example.
     
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    Obama is of course trying to get corporation money - those evil corporate profits - and you can bet these guys will end up with some preferential treatment in the future.

    This is the hypocritical game played "inside the beltway" and the BIG LIE that is Washington politics.

    Those who fail to acknowledge it are simply happier living in ignorance.
     
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    Oh- don't present the facts, it gets in the way of a good smear.
     
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    Obama to take unlimited corporate donations to help fund inauguration

    I believe the thread title requires some Mod action, if the OP refuses to supplement it. :mad:

    And it all fits. (See above.) :p
     
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    This is exactly why I get frustrated in here. In this case, it looks to be quite deliberate too.
     
  8. SLC Flyfishing thread starter Suspended

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    Naah it wasn't intentional, at least not an attempt to mislead. I can see how it could have read that way though so I'm glad the mods fixed it. I haven't been back till just now.

    I just think it's strange that he does such a 180 now that he's elected to his final term. No corporate funds for Obama events until now? Could it be because he knows there's no election to lose anymore if this upsets his constituents?

    This just seems like a total falling away from his past actions (which I actually respected, quite a bit).
     
  9. zioxide macrumors 603

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    Republicans just need things to bitch about apparently.

    If he was using taxpayer money to pay for the inauguration celebrations you all would have your panties in a wad too.

    You can't have it both ways.
     
  10. SLC Flyfishing thread starter Suspended

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    :rolleyes:

    So no insight into why Obama is completely changing his stance then? You'd rather not answer and instead just focus on republicans (whom this has nothing to do with really).

    Thanks for your "contribution" to the discussion.
     
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    So as he has no more elections to win, why exactly would he just do what the corporate paymasters for the inauguration wanted?
     
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    I think you misunderstand my question. I'm saying he could potentially stand to lose votes over something like this. Hence why he had banned corporate funds in the past.

    Now that he doesn't have to please voters (not going to be running for office anymore) he goes ahead and says corporations can donate money, the more the better?

    That's what it looks like to me anyway
     
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    Unless (beyond advertising) the corporations are going to gain something out of this what is the problem?
     
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    I mainly don't like hypocrisy, if corporate funds were banned before out of principle, why are they suddenly being encouraged?

    Also, I don't think corporations should be financing any politician in any way. It's one of the few things I respected about Obama in the past, he seemed above all that. but that's no longer the case apparently.

    Obama can claim transparency all he likes, but as soon as he signs a bill that helps one of these donors, or vetoes one that harms them; or for that matter, does the opposite for a competing corporation, the conflict of interest accusations will begin to fly.

    I'd say the same regardless of who was being sworn in.

    (spoken as someone who voted for neither Obama or Romney)
     
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    I don't think Obama is really concerned with, or even involved in, his re-election party. To quote your article:

    Even then, I'd call this more of a compromise than a flip-flop.

    As far as controversies go, this one is a bit of a yawner.
     
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    First of all, you should probably read the article you posted.

    As we can see from the article, this decision was made by the people running the inaugural committee, not President Obama. I'm sure he has much more important things to do than figuring out how to pay for a party.

    You would think that now that he won't be running for any office anymore then people could stop the pointless Obama bashing over trivial issues like this because there's just no point anymore. It's not like you need some garbage like this to try to sway voters again.

    First of all, it's JUST for the inauguration celebrations for the PRESIDENT of the United States. It's not a partisan thing at all. If corporations want to donate money to help pay for the Presidential inauguration, then more power to them. It's not like the government has millions of dollars just sitting around for a rainy day.

    I don't like the fact that money drives politics either, but it is what it is. None of us have the power (money) to change the system so we might as well use it to our advantage. And President Obama has had plenty of big donors too.

    I donated money to President Obama's election campaign in 2008 and then he signed in to law the health care bill which let me stay on my parents insurance for another two years. Is that a conflict of interest too?

    There is a major difference between a person or corporation donating money to someone's election campaign on the premise that they will do something for you once in office and donating money to the committee organizing the inauguration to help pay for the celebrations.
     
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    Gotta love the Mods. ;)

    WTH is this?

    Since when has an Presidential Inauguration become an Obama event??
     
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    Since 2008? I thought this was common knowledge. And Obama had a no corporate funds policy then, and for the democratic convention this year too. Now suddenly, that policy has been turned 180.
     
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    “Our goal is to make sure that we will meet the fundraising requirements for this civic event after the most expensive presidential campaign in history,” spokeswoman Addie Whisenant said in a statement. “To ensure continued transparency, all names of donors will be posted to a regularly updated website.”

    The committee is still barring lobbyists and political action committees from donating. They are establishing a system for vetting such donations, and won’t accept donations from corporations that accepted stimulus funding and haven’t paid the money back, for example.
     
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    I did. What do you think I didn't understand about it?


    You're both correct, and incorrect. Maybe someone made the actual change in policy, but Obama is still in charge, right? Surely he's aware of the fact that the party is now going to be funded by corporate donations? If not then that's a huge problem (for obvious reasons). His policy in the past has always been that this was not acceptable.

    He's going to be my president for 4 more years, it's not unreasonable for me to take an interest in his ethics. Expecially now that all the pressure to seem ethical is gone. What else will he do in his second term? Clinton stole a bunch of land from the school system trust in my home state during his second term and made a national monument that nobody uses. What will Obama do now that he's shown himself willing to abandon principle when there's nothing to gain from it?

    Your opinion, not mine.

    Great attitude! Can't beat em'...join em'. That's created so much positive change in the past.

    Absolutely not, you're a citizen of the USA, who he's sworn to serve. He is not sworn to protect corporations or business interests though, so I'm sure you can see why that would be a conflict of interest.

    I disagree.
     
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    Oh, silly me. :eek:

    I thought you guys had ~200 years worth by now.
     
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    Obama won. Get over it and give up some of that corporate tax money due the US.
     
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    So I'm the only one who thinks this is a stark reversal of ethics on Obama's part?...

    OK then, good talk everyone!
     
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    They don't want to discuss the reason for the change in policy, they want to powder over it and rip on anyone who even brings it up.
     
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    That much is apparent.
     

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