President Trump, Republicans Sue California Over Law Requiring Release Of Tax Returns

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  1. jkcerda macrumors 6502a

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    https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/201...n_QG9Ic4vEWqgPQOTVysoEeNdhMAQAotnCjnccDo-yfq4
    I hate it when our tax dollars go to pay for stupidity. BOTH sides are doing it here.
     
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    CA needs to go through congress to change requirements to become president.
     
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    Obama could have simply released his long-form Birth Certificate. But he didn't. Both sides can play this game and no one is going to win no matter what.
     
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    Once again for unnecessary spit & giggles, why was it important for an American citizen to release their long form Birth Certificate? As opposed to the short form one people had already seen? What was the logic behind the birth certificate needing to be seen again? o_O

    For your poor equivalence to work, that would mean Obama NEVER did release his long form birth certificate, after he had promised he would.

     
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    Protected by federal law for all Americans.
     
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    Right, but Obama didn’t campaign saying he would release he long form birth certificate since we assumed he was born in the US. It was when a racist Trump started questioning him because Obama is black.
    Also trump explicitly stated that he would release his tax returns and then he choked and refused. Try again Herdfan. If Obama said he’d release his birth certificate and THEN REFUSED, you would actually have a point.
     
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    CA does NOT get to change the requirements for POTUS, if states had this power the red ones could put "Must be Christian AND NRA member" blah blah blah.
     
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    They are not changing the requirements for POTUS. They are changing what is required to be on the ballot in their state for the primaries, which is well within a states rights.
     
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    I thought they were changing to the requirements to be on the state's ballot, which they believe they do have the right to do. They aren't changing the requirements to be POTUS, like saying you can only 35 - 60 years of age.
     
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    I thought you favored state rights? I don’t see a problem with this, even if the tables were turned as long as you can write in the candidate you want.
     
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    Oh boy will there be wailing and gnashing of teeth when a red state comes up with something like this to keep a Democrat off the ballot.
     
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    they believe wrong
    ONLY when it suits ME :mad::mad:

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    I support abortion and gays getting married no matter the state you are in.
     
  14. Herdfan macrumors 6502

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    Cool, so it was ALSO racist when the Hillary campaign brought it up in the first place. Good to know.
     
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    Toni Morrison on racism.jpg
     
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    Has that legally been decided & proven? I kind of thought, that was part of the reason for this lawsuit among many others over 45's tax returns.
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    For a guy who said he would release his tax returns, he puts an awful large amount of legal work to keep anyone else from spoiling the surprise.
     
  17. Herdfan macrumors 6502

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    Better question is what legal basis do those requesting them have? I get they want to see them, but do they have a legal basis and that answer is No!
     
  18. JayMysterio macrumors 6502a

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    I believe we've covered this ad infinitum before.

    The logic for asking to see the tax returns, has to do with 45's various financial entanglements. Especially with Russian entities, such as his Moscow hotel deal.

    Do they have a legal basis? When first asked, no.

    When Rep. Richard Neal did it. Yes. Suddenly though, that right that hasn't been refused before, doesn't exist with this president.

    Bear in mind, in the last 40 years ( with the exception of Ford who released a summary ) no other major party candidate refused to do so.

    Which begs the question for this president, why not release the forms?

    Please don't try the audit excuse, it's already known B.S.

    To bring it back around to your original statement, Obama did release his long form birth certificate, after NEVER having said he would, but did anyway. The call for 45's taxes is also not steeped in birtherism.
     
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    Wrong.

    "Upon written request from the chairman of the Committee on Ways and Means of the House of Representatives, the chairman of the Committee on Finance of the Senate, or the chairman of the Joint Committee on Taxation, the Secretary shall furnish such committee with any return or return information specified in such request, except that any return or return information which can be associated with, or otherwise identify, directly or indirectly, a particular taxpayer shall be furnished to such committee only when sitting in closed executive session unless such taxpayer otherwise consents in writing to such disclosure."

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/6103
     
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    I guess we'll see. States do have the power, apparently, to enact flagrant gerrymandering, determine how their electors to the EC are elected, whether they are bound to vote for a specified candidate etc.
     
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    The logic is irrelevant. The law only requires that Neal request it as chairman of the Committee on Ways and Means of the House of Representatives.
     
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    It's is sad to see the same old crap being spouted in this thread utilizing the same old arguments.

    Trump won't release his personal tax returns.
    Democrat's are trying to weaponize the same tax returns. Doesn't seem to be a big item in the House anymore ...

    It is now in the Court's hands and will end up eventually at SCOTUS.

    For me the concerning piece is personalized legislation aimed to impede / exclude a specific candidate or party. Governor Newsom and cohorts have publicly stated this legislation is Trump specific in intent.
     
  23. linuxcooldude macrumors 68020

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    Same reason why the IRS denied their request as it was not made in good faith. As it would be used for partisan politics rather than any legitimate or legal use.
     
  24. BaldiMac macrumors 604

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    Good or bad faith is irrelevant. The law only requires a written request from Neal.
     
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    This is false. The Clinton campaign did no such thing.
     

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