Progressive asks for tolerance of pedophiles

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    By Noel Sheppard | September 08, 2012 | 15:34
    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-s...-sexual-orientation-and-illness-deserving-pub
     
  2. q64ceo macrumors regular

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    Child rape and pedophilia are not mutually exclusive. A pedo could go through out his whole life without raping a child, and a child rapist may have raped the child for opportunistic reasons. It boils down to one thing, choice; they made the choice to rape children. No one put a gun to their head and told them to have sex with that child. Those ****ers should be shunned from our community and no one should care about them.
     
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    I can feel sympathy for pedophiles, as we can't control what we are attracted to, and it must be agonizing to be attracted to something that you can't legally have and is shunned (for good reason) by society. That must be awful.

    That said, there are some boundaries that cannot and should not be crossed. Children are incapable of informed consent and are easily manipulated. No sexual relationship between an adult and a child could ever be considered consensual. This is a clear and easy distinction to make and one society should maintain.

    I'm not worried about the occasional person trying to make a case for it. Acceptance for it simply isn't going to happen.
     
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    I wonder how much sexual assaults against children would change if something like child porn was legalized. I am not talking about legalizing production, just possession. Would it give pedophiles a place where they could view this and live in a fantasy? Would it increase sexual assaults on children because of how easily children can be manipulated thinking something as normal when they see it in a picture?
     
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    If someone does something that I think is not right and it upsets me, I suppose I should beat them up, have them thrown in prison, or just plain finish them off. Because, after all, trying to understand people is just too much work, hating them is much simpler.
     
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    In my opinion, child pornography couldn't legally exist because again, minors cannot consent to it.
     
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    Bingo- there is no excuse for hurting a child. That's what pedophilia does. Once harm comes into the picture, that's where the line is drawn. There is no case to be made for the acceptance of pedophilia, period.

    Given the OP's past posts though, I suspect his real intent with posting this was to tar all progressives, especially given what he highlighted.
     
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    While that may have been his intent, this happens plenty of times with people here trying to paint all conservatives by a wack job example.

    That said, I have no tolerance for people who sexually abuse children. Lock them up and throw away the key.
     
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    Unfortunately, the wacko stuff is written into the GOP platform. No such tolerance for pedophiles is written into the Dem platform, nor will it ever be.

    It would be nice if conservatives would stand up to the GOP and condemn the abject insanity in their platform, yet no such outcry is ever heard. Instead, they shrug their shoulders and just say, "Well, I get promised less taxes."
     
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    There should be no tolerance for people who have acted upon their pedophilia. However, if someone suffers from pedophilia and they never hurt a child, I think they deserve to be in some kind of therapy. This is an issue that's definitely worthy of attention, for the sake of the children. It must be horrible to have these thoughts that you can't control and desperately want to get rid of. It's not their fault they have this illness. Their only fault would be acting upon it.
     
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    I can certainly agree with this. I think most people can. There are many people with afflictions that make them want to do things that harm others. They all need help and they deserve help.
     
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    Don't many health societies class Pedophilia as a mental health problem anyway?
     
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    You could theoretically make simulated child porn. (not all people develop all that much).
     
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    It would still be illegal. Child Pornography is usually classed as illicit portrayal of underage youth in a lot of western countries. Commission Artists usually have issues with laws and what their commissioners want.
     
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    The OP is trolling hard, but it brings up two interesting questions:

    1) Is prison to rehabilitate the prisoner, separate him from society, or seek revenge?

    2) Can someone be a pedophile without being a child abuser? And, does "simulated" child pornography create an avenue of release or does it fuel the desire to engage in sexual acts with children?
     
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    1. It should be the first two, never the last.
    2. Feeding a desire that is harmful to the object of said desire can't be helpful.
     
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    Read your own article, its just calling attention that criminal acts are being done .

    You support vigilante justice then? If somebody thinks you are guilty they can just hand out any punishment on you they seem fit?

    And yes pedophilia is an illness, or what do you think it is?

    Anyone justice suspect he would be a danger should be locked up and kept there until certain he wont commit any crimes, but that doesnt mean they can be tortured beaten or murdered by other criminals who just feel like taking it out on them.

    Your opening post is juust filled with ignorance I must say.
     
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    This is why the GOP puts in in their platform. Democrats pave the way for pedophilia - as many of you are even admitting in your posts here - through a policy of accepting any deviant behavior first as an illness, then simply as a lifestyle choice. Homosexuality took this exact same path, first being classified as a mental disorder, then classified as a lifestyle choice.

    "by Jack Minor, Northern Colorado Gazette, Oct. 15, 2011
    Using the same tactics used by gay rights activists, pedophiles have begun to seek similar status arguing their desire for children is a sexual orientation no different than heterosexual or homosexuals.
    Critics of the homosexual lifestyle have long claimed that once it became acceptable to identify homosexuality as simply an alternative lifestyle or sexual orientation, logically nothing would be off limits. Gay advocates have taken offense at such a position insisting this would never happen. However, psychiatrists are now beginning to advocate redefining pedophilia in the same way homosexuality was redefined several years ago."

    Yes, the fear is that the openly aggressive activities of so called progressives to recognize gay rights as special rights will soon be applied to any sexual orientation - including pedophilia.

    Prove them wrong.

    Come out as strongly against pedophilia as you are for gay rights. I dare you. Your party leaders won't do it. Can you?
     
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    Absolute and total BS, GOP made up for wich you fell .

    In case tyou donty realise pedophilia and Homosexuality are 2 quite different things.

    1 is among conscenting adults the other by definition isnt.



    Prove something that doesnt even excist? Disprove the made up GOP rhetoric of what will happen in the future?

    The party leaders do more made up BS.



    GOP (and its followers) should run against the actuall people, not the made up fantasy they have created for themselves.
     
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    You're just a riot aren't you?

    http://www.taasa.org/library/pdfs/TAASALibrary85.pdf
     
  21. Rampant.A.I., Sep 10, 2012
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    Oh good, looks like its time to trot out the old, tired comparison of a consensual adult relationship to sex with car exhaust pipes, pigeons, children, the comatose elderly, and various offensive behaviors involving peanut butter.

    Apparently the GOP is so obsessed with deviant sex acts that they can't see the difference between two consenting people forming a relationship (which, by the way, isn't just about banging one out 24/7) and people wanting to legally marry bacon.

    It makes you wonder: if the GOP spends all this time obsessing about gay sex, and comparing it to pedophilia, beastiality, or whatever weird trip they're into this this weekend, how do they find time to reform healthcare, lower unemployment, reduce the debt, or fund education?

    ...Oh, wait. That explains a lot.
     
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    In their defense, smooth peanut butter is the best way to teach someone how to give head. Can't let that important knowledge out can we? ;)
     
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    Old is an understatement. People were using basically the same argument a century ago, only the "deviants" were interracial couples.
     
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    That is inscrutably Kraft-y of you Drago.

    KGB:)
     
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