Prove to me that god exists!

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  1. Intelligent macrumors 6502a

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    Hey, I don't make this thread to hurt anyone. In no means.
    Can you give me one! one single proof that god exists. Don't tell me that "i should prove he doesn't exist". The thread is about YOU proving that god exists. Whether you are muslim, christian, jewish or hinduist, it doesn't matter, Give me ONE single factual proof that he exists. No "i feel him in my heart" stuff because thats not actual proof. Not meaning to offend anyone, keep the comments mature.
     
  2. edk99 macrumors 6502a

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    Creating the Earth and you isn't proof enough? :confused:
     
  3. jonbravo77 macrumors 6502a

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    Honestly, for me, not my job nor responsibility to prove god exists for you or anybody else. I believe he does. It is really up to you to believe god either exists or does not exist. No one can make that choice for you.

    I know this is not what you want to hear.
     
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    Every day, I put my car keys in the exact same place, and every day I always end up having trouble finding them. Something is moving my car keys.

    ...and I think it's ghosts.
     
  5. yg17 macrumors G5

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    Prove that god created those.
     
  6. ugahairydawgs macrumors 68020

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    For me at least, the life, death and resurrection of Jesus is enough evidence. If you believe the Bible to be a historical document (which I do), he was born to a virgin, led a life of good works, performed miracles, died guiltless to absolve us of our sins, and rose from the dead. The average person is corruptible and full of flaws. Jesus was the antithesis of that. That's pretty remarkable on its own, but add in the whole virgin mother and rising from the dead and that is enough for me.

    But I realize that for many that's not enough and that for many the Bible and the story of Jesus is something they won't accept. And that's the ultimate problem with faith. For those that require iron clad, bulletproof evidence there will never be enough to satisfy that standard.
     
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    This is one type of discussion I tend to avoid, as it always seems to end up in a slagging match. I fully respect others' beliefs and would wish that they respect mine. Constructive debate can only go so far...then it really does come down to what you actually believe yourself. I would hope that this thread remains friendly and won't wind up in the wastelands.:)
     
  8. jbachandouris macrumors 68040

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    Exactly. That's why I wish we knew apologetics. The Apostle Paul was able to debate with those who disagreed with him without resorting to the 'I'm right and your wrong' approach. Sadly, I do not possess those skills.
     
  9. AustinIllini macrumors demi-god

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    These discussions always make the theist look ridiculous, which I find ironic because the opposition claim to be more "accepting". OP should read more religious threads here.
     
  10. chrono1081 macrumors 604

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    It's called "faith" because you believe in something for which there is no proof.
     
  11. lannister80 macrumors 6502

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    The bar is set waaaaay lower than that. I'd be happy to at least look at ANY evidence that's not derived from a self-verifying and self-referencing book of myths and quazi-historical accounts from 2000 years ago.
     
  12. APlotdevice macrumors 68040

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    I'm certain his proof is "faith". Never mind the fact that the followers of EVERY SINGLE RELIGION ON THIS PLANET have just as much faith in their beliefs.
     
  13. Intelligent thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    I said i wanted real proof, thats like saying i have a invisible baseball here and it created the macintosh. Don't believe? isn't that enough proof? Im sorry, but you kinda missed the point, okay you believe god created the Earth, wheres the proof? a book that says "everything in this book is true"?
     
  14. MacNut macrumors Core

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    Will we ever be able to prove there was or is a God. Will we ever be able to prove that we are not alone in the universe and there is a higher intelligence somewhere. There is a lot we can't prove, it doesn't mean it does or does not exist. Could there one day be science that would prove 100% either way that there was a creator. And if we got that proof could both sides learn to live with it.
     
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    Could someone please tell me where my car keys keep going? I need help.
     
  16. MacNut macrumors Core

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    That would be the sock gnomes.
     
  17. jonbravo77 macrumors 6502a

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    And this is why these debates or questions end the way they do. You asked a question, you get a response and then you turn around and don't accept that response and make the person who responded look foolish.

    It is up to you to believe or not. I am a Jew, and I believe that Jesus is the literal personification of God. God sent Jesus to us to show us that if we believe and have faith that we can achieve anything. But, even though it was written that God was going to send this messiah and perform these things he did it still was not good enough for the Jews. I guarantee, with every ounce of being I am that if Jesus came down tomorrow these so called true "christians" (and I say most not all) will deny Jesus, will call him a socialist liberal and try to crucify him again.

    I do not believe in blind faith, my eyes and my mind and my heart are wide open to knowing the true grace of God. I do not believe in western organized religion.

    I cannot and will not sit here and tell you that God exists and then spout everything I know why god exists because frankly you wouldn't believe it anyway. Not trying to be a jerk but as I said earlier in this post, you asked a question, you got a response and you turned around and essentially mocked the response...
     
  18. roadbloc macrumors G3

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    Its obvious. First of all God created Stonehenge. Then he created the universe because he needed somewhere to put it.
     
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    You do understand why religion is base on "faith" right? :p
     
  20. Intelligent thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    How is "he created the earth" Proof? i said i wanted PROOF!! P-R-O-O-F, not what he did. Or what you think he did.
     
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    I think the only way you will get the absolute proof that you so dearly desire is to die. At that point, you will either have your proof or it won't matter.

    Feel free to commence testing at any time.
     
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    The Earth is here. It objectively exists. You have two choices as to how it came to be. One day nothing exploded out of a space smaller than the head of a pin and eventually became everything, or someone put it here. Pick which one you like best.

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    All the sock gnomes died out in the 60's, man. It's gotta be something else.
     
  23. Sydde, Mar 27, 2014
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    You fail to get his point. His car keys are useful. God is not useful. Why discuss a thing that is not useful.
     
  24. jonbravo77 macrumors 6502a

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    SO, you didn't read anything I said. Well there you have it, thank you for proving my point..
     
  25. Gutwrench macrumors 65816

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    Op, just because a person may believe in God and you do not doesn't constitute knowledge for either point of view does it?

    I find "radical non-believers" as tedious and intolerant as "fundamentalist believers".
     

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