Getting tired of threads being stolen / taken over with petty squabbles that divert from some sensible thought. So I'm starting a new thread. Please show some maturity (even if your not) and keep the thread on topic... --- PS3 WILL SELL ---- Sony have sold 100 million ps2's If only a third of users go out and upgrade then thats still 33 million sales. Sony are going to do well regardless. IF (yes big IF) Ps3 turn's out to be a bit of a turkey, it wont be the Ps3 that will suffer, it will be the ps4. People will be jaded and not bother buying the follow up. That was Segas downfall. After all the DC was a good system, it's a shame it followed a turd... From game-spot article. The only thing that worries me is that Sony claim they will produce 1 million units a month and will have shipped 6 million units by March 2007. This makes it sound like there's going to be plenty, but it isn't. Look at it from the reverse side. Working backwards then 6 million from march 2007 @ 1 million per month means that they will only have just over 1 million by November. (remember production ramps up so there will be less yield at the start of production. And remember IBM's track record alone) Spread over three territories ?? Now way. I feel America & Japan may indeed see the release this year, but still would be surprised if they released in in Europe. Also just because they say it will be NOW does not mean it is. After all they did say IT WOULD be released in spring.. ----- MY CONCERN ------ Also I'm concerned if the HD isn't supplied. Gamespot were vague and if all games require HD to play are they going to market the machine as a DVD/CD/BluRay DVD player with the option of buying an HD to use it as games? Seems strange, but I guess it's possible. Sony's marketing can be a little fecked up at times. After all they have been focusing so far (last E3) on how much more power & graphical prowess it would have compared to 360 (yes those fake Killzone vids that they were soon to disclaim as an example of game-play we might see! mmm) , BUT we all know from interviews with developers that give or take the 360 & Ps3 are about the same in power.. --- CHANGE THE MARKETING ---- So does this mean a dead end to marketing down that line, and maybe they are going to concentrate on the main difference between it and competitors which is it's Blu Ray player.... If they do decided to market it on that differential, then I can see the HD been released separately OR as an alternative GAMERS bundle. So two bundles. A movie Home Entertainment bundle with the ps3 on its own and a GAMERS bundle with the HD included.. This is a very FEASIBLE SNEAKY way of making more money and offsetting some of the guaranteed losses per hardware. It also makes you take the decision and Sony can if criticised come out with some hyperbole about giving it's customers a choice.... --- Any thought's guy's??