Pseudoscience in the Witness Box

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  1. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...ny_hair_analysis_bite_marks_fingerprints.html

    those "examiners" should be jailed for the same amount of time the convicted served.
     
  2. VulchR macrumors 68020

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    Wow. DNA testing was also presented as being more conclusive than it was. Basically the problem is that the law enforcement agencies feel that they work for the prosecutors rather than the people.
     
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    The fundamental problem with State and Federal Crime Labs is that they have both a built-in bias in favor of the police/prosecution/State - and that they are essentially left to their own devices as far as monitoring and/or quality control.

    As far as I am aware, no State or Federal Jurisdiction conducts blind testing of the Crime Labs or scientists they rely on to convict people. There is not some program that sends scientifically-prepared blood/urine/hair etc. samples, containing known (including zero) levels of intoxicants, etc. to the lab - and then compares those values with what the Lab reports.

    This could very well be done. And at a cost that would be trifling in comparison with the overall costs society bears in trying and imprisoning such a huge percentage of its population.

    But alas, there seems to be pretty much zero political impetus or popular will to do anything about this. People always figure its never going to happen to them.
     
  5. Huntn macrumors G5

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    This appears to be another unfair advantage in the pocket of prosecutors along with the Grand Jury system. So much for blind Justice. :(
     
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    Actually, the prosecutors are supposed to be working for the people also, in the U.S. justice system:



    http://www.americanbar.org/publications/criminal_justice_section_archive/crimjust_standards_pfunc_blk.html

    Anyone with any familiarity with the system has seen that it does not always work that way.
     
  8. mscriv macrumors 601

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    What are you talking about. They never get it wrong on CSI! :eek:
     
  9. VulchR macrumors 68020

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    lol.
     

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