R u disappointed iPhone X didnt have an AirPods/iCloud/Music pack-in?

[thadoggfather]

This was a rumor that was stirring, to lessen the blow of the shocking sticker price.


There’s tons of threads debating how much people will adjust to Face ID replacing Touch ID, and other iPhone X features, but I figured I’d create a poll specific to the thread title

Because I’m curious

 

[eyoungren]

Assuming I was buying then no, I wouldn't be disappointed.

I have other services (and they are free).

 

[Damon2]

They should have been yes, that would help justify the cost.

But then again on a counter argument not everybody would want that and could say remove all that and give me it cheaper.

 

[thadoggfather]

They should have been yes, that would help justify the cost.

But then again on a counter argument not everybody would want that and could say remove all that and give me it cheaper.

True but considering they didn't lower the price and it was still around what it was rumored to be, one could argue the AirPods pack in for people who don't want it or already have a pair could resell it and decrease the price by about $100 and change

Or have a backup pair

 

[Jimmy James]

No. They would just add it to the price. And Apple knows that most who really want the other things will probably buy them anyway.

 

[SharepointGuy]

Nope. Admittedly though it's because i haven't found a good pair of in ear headphones that don't hurt after an hour or so of use.

 

[thadoggfather]

No. They would just add it to the price. And Apple knows that most who really want the other things will probably buy them anyway.

For arguments sake I know it's a huge assumption and leap given how apple nickel and dimes everything, but let's operate under the pretense that by "pack in" I mean that the established prices have remain unchanged and these are freebies.

 

[Damon2]

True but considering they didn't lower the price and it was still around what it was rumored to be, one could argue the AirPods pack in for people who don't want it or already have a pair could resell it and decrease the price by about $100 and change

Or have a backup pair

Oh then yes I definitely agree.

Whilst I have no interest in AirPods, yes throw me in a pair with amongst other things, and at least make me feel I'm getting bang for my buck!

 

[MjWoNeR]

If there were AirPods included I'd still be jumping from happiness.

 

[Jimmy James]

For arguments sake I know it's a huge assumption and leap given how apple nickel and dimes everything, but let's operate under the pretense that by "pack in" I mean that the established prices have remain unchanged and these are freebies.

I would *love* that but I never anticipated it.

 

[xmonkey]

I think they should have included several months of Music and a fast-charger in the box for the price they're asking. That's not asking for much and it'd be a small, but welcome, gesture to those dropping over $1,000 on a phone.

 

[akash.nu]

For arguments sake I know it's a huge assumption and leap given how apple nickel and dimes everything, but let's operate under the pretense that by "pack in" I mean that the established prices have remain unchanged and these are freebies.

The AirPods are too expensive to be given away as freebies. That would have been a really poor business decision & it would have devalued AirPods as premium items.

True but considering they didn't lower the price and it was still around what it was rumored to be, one could argue the AirPods pack in for people who don't want it or already have a pair could resell it and decrease the price by about $100 and change

Or have a backup pair

If AirPods were given out free with the new iPhones then the selling price wouldn't have remained at $100. Because of my previous point about devaluation of the product line.

 

[thadoggfather]

The AirPods are too expensive to be given away as freebies. That would have been a really poor business decision & it would have devalued AirPods as premium items.



If AirPods were given out free with the new iPhones then the selling price wouldn't have remained at $100. Because of my previous point about devaluation of the product line.

You are overthinking my hypothetical scenario

I’m sure there is healthy margin on iPhone X, so ASSUME they were pack-ins like the rumors.

Or dont, but the nature of a hypothetical scenario is that its hypothetical.

It’s not a matter of would it happen or not or even could it happen or not from a business perspective, it clearly didn’t happen. But there were rumors stirring that they may have been packed in, and remained around $1000+

 

[zakarhino]

It's Apple.

Anyone that really thought they'd include a free set of AirPods is delusional.

 

[akash.nu]

You are overthinking my hypothetical scenario

I’m sure there is healthy margin on iPhone X, so ASSUME they were pack-ins like the rumors.

Or dont, but the nature of a hypothetical scenario is that its hypothetical.

It’s not a matter of would it happen or not or even could it happen or not from a business perspective, it clearly didn’t happen. But there were rumors stirring that they may have been packed in, and remained around $1000+

Hypothesis needs to be based on something. I feel like such expectations are baseless. That's why I tried to explain based on your title. You only get disappointed if you expect unlikely things to happen.

 

[Koobs]

This was a rumor that was stirring, to lessen the blow of the shocking sticker price.


There’s tons of threads debating how much people will adjust to Face ID replacing Touch ID, and other iPhone X features, but I figured I’d create a poll specific to the thread title

Because I’m curious

It's a no win for Apple. If they threw in AirPods people would've bitched that they don't want them therefore the phone should cost $900.

 

[leesweet]

And there is no way they could have done AirPods, they can't even meet normal demand, never mind include a pair with every X!

 

[i hate phones]

They should include a fast charger or wireless charging pad. I find it a bit absurd that 2 of the big new features require you to buy additional stuff in order to use.

 

[bufffilm]

I fail to see what including those goodies would do to make the ipX more desirable or more amendable (beyond the mere fact that they would be free).

I'd even argue the opposite...Apple is trying to sweeten what some say is a lemon sour.

I just watched another video of the ipX.

From the kinda dim OLED screen (as opposed to the gorgeous Samsung displays on the S8/+), to the paltry 64gb entry model, those silly ears/cutout at the top, etc...this iPhone is not worthy of prime time.

Steve Jobs would not have signed off on it (but that is a pure subjective opinion) even as Apple brought up numerous references to him on Tuesday.

But hey, people...go out and buy it. Make sure you pre-order it. Tell your family and friends what a great phone it is.

I'm sure there are plenty of Apple stockholders out there (myself included) and every sale Apple rings up is money for us.

 

[rainafterthesun]

Besides the obvious (not enough AirPods) AirPods are a bargain when you think about what it entails at 159. You have the wireless air buds with a charging case that provides 24 hrs of charge (I can go days without charging my AirPods) and each AirPods have its own microphone plus Siri...seriously, the reason I think it's so hard to get is because they haven't worked out the kinks (getting the pricing down so they can massproduce these at a profit). As of now I bet they're breaking even if not losing.

The greedy part of me would say heck yes to the Q.

The business side of me would think that's stupid.

The apple side of me would say, that's something the androids would do.

 

[thadoggfather]

I fail to see what including those goodies would do to make the ipX more desirable or more amendable (beyond the mere fact that they would be free).

I'd even argue the opposite...Apple is trying to sweeten what some say is a lemon sour.

I just watched another video of the ipX.

From the kinda dim OLED screen (as opposed to the gorgeous Samsung displays on the S8/+), to the paltry 64gb entry model, those silly ears/cutout at the top, etc...this iPhone is not worthy of prime time.

Steve Jobs would not have signed off on it (but that is a pure subjective opinion) even as Apple brought up numerous references to him on Tuesday.

But hey, people...go out and buy it. Make sure you pre-order it. Tell your family and friends what a great buy it is.

I'm sure there are plenty of Apple stockholders out there (myself included) and every sale Apple rings up is money for us.

Can you link me to videos where the display looks dim?

That seems troubling considering OLED Is the most appealing part of the X (for me)

Playing the panel lottery for a 1149$ phone is something I wouldn't have much patience for. Beyond being exhausted by it in general anyways


But lucked out with my first 7Plus phew
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Besides the obvious (not enough AirPods) AirPods are a bargain when you think about what it entails at 159. You have the wireless air buds with a charging case that provides 24 hrs of charge (I can go days without charging my AirPods) and each AirPods have its own microphone plus Siri...seriously, the reason I think it's so hard to get is because they haven't worked out the kinks (getting the pricing down so they can massproduce these at a profit). As of now I bet they're breaking even if not losing.

The greedy part of me would say heck yes to the Q.

The business side of me would think that's stupid.

The apple side of me would say, that's something the androids would do.

I seriously doubt they are breaking even or losing but ...

 

[bufffilm]

Can you link me to videos where the display looks dim?

That seems troubling considering OLED Is the most appealing part of the X (for me)

Playing the panel lottery for a 1149$ phone is something I wouldn't have much patience for. Beyond being exhausted by it in general anyways


But lucked out with my first 7Plus phew
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I seriously doubt they are breaking even or losing but ...

I just saw EverythingApplePro's "10 Reasons NOT to buy iPhone X"

 

[rainafterthesun]

Can you link me to videos where the display looks dim?

That seems troubling considering OLED Is the most appealing part of the X (for me)

Playing the panel lottery for a 1149$ phone is something I wouldn't have much patience for. Beyond being exhausted by it in general anyways


But lucked out with my first 7Plus phew
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I seriously doubt they are breaking even or losing but ...

I actually spoke to someone on the finance team.

Even before I did though, you gotta think about that price point. I purchased over the head noise canceling beats for $400. I've purchased regular old headphones from master dynamics for near $400. And I got the AirPods for $159?

Before their release the closest to the AirPods didn't hold as long of a charge and was $300.

If you've dealt with manufacturers and freight costs, yes, it's easy to believe.

 

[thadoggfather]

I actually spoke to someone on the finance team.

Even before I did though, you gotta think about that price point. I purchased over the head noise canceling beats for $400. I've purchased regular old headphones from master dynamics for near $400. And I got the AirPods for $159?

Before their release the closest to the AirPods didn't hold as long of a charge and was $300.

If you've dealt with manufacturers and freight costs, yes, it's easy to believe.

You’re comparing two entirely different products tho.

Beats are overpriced period (I liked my solo 2’s that I later traded up for solo 3’s on sale at $149 earlier this year dont get me wrong, but MSRP beats are overpriced), and noise cancelling is a different market.

BeatsX are also $149 which is pretty close to AirPods at $159 and they were back to school freebies.
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I just saw EverythingApplePro's "10 Reasons NOT to buy iPhone X"

Just watched MHKBD’s video and he said his Note 8 was definitely brighter, and had concerns of brightness in general, but “obviously no one could bring the phone outside”

Not exactly confidence instilling

 

[rainafterthesun]

You’re comparing two entirely different products tho.

Beats are overpriced period (I liked my solo 2’s that I later traded up for solo 3’s on sale at $149 earlier this year dont get me wrong, but MSRP beats are overpriced), and noise cancelling is a different market.

BeatsX are also $149 which is pretty close to AirPods at $159 and they were back to school freebies.
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Just watched MHKBD’s video and he said his Note 8 was definitely brighter, and had concerns of brightness in general, but “obviously no one could bring the phone outside”

Not exactly confidence instilling

Beatsx still has a wire in between, only one side with the microphone.

No portable charger along with it.

And as you said, beats are overpriced. The noise cancelling isn't really noise cancelling and, they're overpriced, it's okay to give it as a freebie I guess for students struggling.