Reader's Digest Poll of 17 Countries: All prefer Obama for Next President except U.S.

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  1. Cleverboy macrumors 65816

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    http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/06/pub-global-poll-finds-obama-preferred-countries/
    In the end, obviously only one country's opinion matters on this, but its food for thought.

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  2. és: macrumors 6502a

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    Only one country's vote matters. You're still part of an international community.

    We'll all have to live by McCain's rules when he f*cks up the economy even further. We'll all have to pay the price when he attacks Iran. We'll all have to suffer the consequences of his actions.
     
  3. Anuba macrumors 68040

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    Well, the US takes pride in not listening to the rest of the world, and of course it's an exclusive prerogative of Americans to elect any president they want. But they're kidding themselves if they think that world opinion of America has no bearing on their own chances of success in life. In a globalized economy, the difference between "Wow! You're an American!" (the Clinton era) and "Oh... you're an American" (the Bush era) is, to a large extent, what dictates the thickness of Joe Sixpack's wallet.

    The sad part is that the voter turnout is so low. In Western Europe it's 77% (86% in Sweden where I live), while in the US it's only around 60%. So, only a little more than half of the American people take part in electing a president, and if that wasn't sad enough, you don't even go by popular vote -- hick and redneck states have a larger say.

    USA = 300 million = 4% of the world population.
    Number who voted in 2000: 101.5 million.
    Number who voted for Bush: 50.5 million (.7% of the world population).

    Less than one percent of the world population decided that a blithering moron should be the most powerful man in the world.
     
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    In order for your target audience to hear what you are saying, you must first translate to sheepian...
     
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    This statement is key. The United States is still THE world power, and to protect our freedom, we should not feel guilty about it. When this power is broken down is when we begin to lose certain freedoms. This is how the socialist left would have it.
     
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    You don't get it. Pro-american is a very relative term. There's a difference between "USA! USA! USA!" and "Well... I suppose, if I had to pick between the US and North Korea, I guess I'd go with the US".

    If you think of the Western world as a family, the US has gone from big brother to retarded cousin in the last decade. It's still family, and you stick up for your family, but that doesn't mean you think the retarded cousin is a worthy head of the family or some sort of role model you aspire to be like one day.
     
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    What I found interesting about the Poll is "South Africa was the only foreign country where a McCain victory would have a slightly more positive impact on their image of the U.S."

    I would like to believe that this isn't an apartheid hangover.


    :rolleyes:
     
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    You've got to be kidding me. No one has done more to dismantle our "freedoms" than the Bush-Cheney administration. Feel guilty? No, you ought to be utterly ashamed of yourself for supporting an administration that has waved the American flag to dazzle and distract self-styled patriots from its very un-American quest to remove power from the ordinary citizen. By their very definition the "socialists" you're afraid of would return that power to the common man; but, then again, if you think the American left is socialist, you live in a very blinkered world.
     
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    I would've gone for "Psychotic Uncle", but that's a good analogy also ;)
     
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    I don't know wether I can follow their conclusion. I'm wondering if more than 50% were seeing the US positively before 2000. When it's only 50% now, I think this indicates that their reputation is in fact getting worse.
     
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    Well then lets give them what they want. OBAMA 2008
     
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    Because it's a Foxnews article, I don't trust it. Foxnews is clearly biased.
     
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    I wouldn't exactly trust Reader's Digest on political matters. There was a time when I might have, but that time has long since passed.
     
  14. Anuba macrumors 68040

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    CNN did a piece yesterday on another worldwide poll that said the same thing, but that one featured 167 countries, not 17. The world map was bright blue (they mentioned Finland = 92% Obama), but there was apparently one exception: The people of Macedonia were big McCain fans. :D
     
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    I don't think it's their opinion that is under discussion, but their analysis. They have an innate ability to disseminate any range of range of information into segments that can be digested in the amount of time it takes you to move your bowels. Very relevant POV right now.
     
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    I don't have time to look it up now (because I'm headed to the Election Board to cast my vote early here in Ohio), but I saw someone on CNN this morning talking about an international poll. I don't think it was the same as the RD one, but they were quoting an international figure of 87% for Obama vs. 13% for McCain. It was crazy how much more sensible the international community is than we are.

    Edit: Anuba and I are probably talking about the same story. I'll try and track it down when I get back.
     
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    while this will definitely solidify the Obama supporters and their macro, global, forward thinking, it wont do much for the Republican faithful.
     
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    Well, I'm back from voting. It was pretty busy. And it ain't just young people coming in to vote; I saw plenty of middle-aged and older voters there too.

    Okay, I've been searching the internet for a half hour and I'm damned if I can find anything about the story I mentioned a couple posts above...even on CNN's own web site. Anuba, have you seen anything?
     
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    I saw it on CNN today (TV, not the web), but since I live in Europe I have CNN International, not the US version, I'm not sure if it was an American clip or not because they keep switching back and forth. They haven't published it on their homepage though. But this is the website that they were talking about:

    http://www.iftheworldcouldvote.com

    The other poll mentioned earlier was probably this one:

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/09/09/2360240.htm?section=world
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7606100.stm

    And here's "The World Wants Obama Coalition": http://www.theworldwantsobama.org/
     
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    I'm curious if saying baseless and absurd talking points with sincerity has some kind of physiological effect. Does it burn one's frontal lobe? Is there a smell associated with it? Or does it produce a high, like a drug?

    "Socialist" countries rank similarly or more often better than the United States for economic freedom, freedom from poverty, access to healthcare, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and civil liberties. And it's pretty obvious that a lot more of them actually respect that freedom by the number of people who turn out to be a part of the political process. Just because your president likes to stand up and repeat the word "freedom" a dozen times during every speech doesn't make it some kind of far-reaching truth. What it is is a wonderful distraction, beating the drums of nationalism, that ensures the citizens are too busy with their foam #1 hands to notice that the standards of education, literacy, health and welfare in your nation aren't even up to the standards of those "socialized" nations you're so fond of demeaning.
     
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    I'm breaking my rule of not posting on political threads...

    But there's a clear reason for this. The rest of the world, even US allies, have a vested interest in the US being weaker. They want the US weaker, more pliable, and more under their control. They want to have veto power over US foreign policy decisions. And this is precisely what Obama offers.
     
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    You shouldn't have broken your rule. It really wasn't worth it.
     
  23. Much Ado macrumors 68000

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    Speaking on behalf of the world is ambitious, I'll grant you, but it's doomed to failure.

    (Why would the UK/Canada/NZ/AUS want a weaker US? Their militaries are jointly co-ordinated at every level.)
     
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    They also have a vested interest in not being invaded/bombed by religious nuts. But I guess that concern is only secondary :rolleyes:
     
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    After 8 years of Clinton this country entered the 21st century as the strongest nation in the world... after 8 years of Bush this nation is on the verge of being irrelevant.

    The Republican party squandered our military assets, lost us the good will of other nations, destroyed our claim to the moral high ground, and let the greediest among us wreck our economy. If you think 4 more years of that is a good thing for you, fine... but don't try to sell it to the rest of us as being good for this nation, because we know better.
     

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