Good point! I experienced the same problem at my last job. You have to worry about opening up ports for viewing content and its just a big pain.Originally posted by AlphaTech
One of the main resons that I don't like Real Player (any platform, and any version) is that it is a b*tch to set up behind a firewall. If they tighten up the firewall to protect us from viruses, real player is one of the first things to stop working. Quicktime on the other hand, works no matter what they do, as long as the network doesn't go down.
In a sense, yes, but Real reminds me less of Microsoft (an abusive monopolist) and more of a company on the ropes trying desperately to force consumers to use their products. It amazes me people bother with the hassle of Real anymore. Not sure why struggling companies all seem to arrive at this conclusion that you can gain market share by sufficiently annoying your customers. Are they teaching that in b-school nowadays?Originally posted by tfaz1
I don't like Real Networks. Their biz practices remind me of Microsoft. But I also dislike missing some content that I had access to while running OS9.
I agree with you there. There was a site that was showing a piece of anime last summer that only offered it in real player and wmp formats. I installed both, but still couldn't watch it. I contacted the site, and because I was not alone with the issue, they ordered up a bunch of DVD's and sent them to everyone that sent feedback with issues watching the movie. When the DVD's came into them, they sent out an email letting me know that it would be shipping within a few days (they had to process all the orders/list of people to send them to). Now I have a free movie to watch at some point. That is good a customer satisfaction practice.Originally posted by voicegy
If I ever go to a site whose only choices are, say, RealPlayer or Winblows Media Player to view whatever they are offering, I just go somewhere else.
Real is a pain to set up, is herky-jerky, unreliable, UGLY, full of damn ads, crashes, and I've had to even re-intall it on ocassion on the same machine to get it to work after it HAD worked (albeit poorly) in the past.
I couldn't care LESS if I ever see RP for OS X.
Very true... plus, IF you want to get the pro version, it's a $30 online purchase where they email you the registration number. I did that a month or so ago, just so that I can save online Quicktime movies/files to my drive for viewing later. If you are only viewing stuff online and such, and don't need to save it to your system, then the normal version is perfect.Originally posted by dantec
Real player is such a hassle, Quicktime is sooo easy...
Quicktime asks you once for your connection rate, and doesn't pester you every time you want to view something online...
Long live Quicktime...
And Quicktime player is free, has no bad banners, and doesn't pester you as much to buy Real G2!!! Quicktime also crashes less, now has more content and has a nice interface.
I guess no one told them that wmp is also available for the Mac. Granted, I use QT5 (pro) all the time, and pretty much never use wmp. I despise real player since it has major issues with going through our firewall. Quicktime just uses the same connection that your browser does (by default, unlike rp which you have to hunt down the settings in order to make it do that).Originally posted by Dunepilot
even though RP does some damn irritating things like being very slow to quit (which makes me think it's sending system info across to real - if it is, that's very dodgy), the file sizes are just so much smaller than QT.
Also, quicktime was never really intended for streaming media at all. Rather, the whole file comes across to your cache whatever happens, as I understand it.
One thing I'd say is that I worked a year ago in my holidays for a dotcom converting their WMP files to QT, and their technical guy felt that QT was not technically suited to streaming content, but that they had to support Mac users as well as PC users and therefore the transition had to be made.
I think I probably pissed the guy off, talking about how great Macs were all the time, when he just wanted to drool over his new Compaq server
Dream on buddy. You heard of Windows media player?Originally posted by dantec
Most sites over the years have adopted Quicktime. But there are still a few ("stupid" few, who havn't been enlightened).
By far the biggest Real-Quicktime decision mistake comes from CNN. Now they have chosen to make you "pay" to view video + use Real!!!
You know, this might sound crazy, but sometimes I really think Apple & MS should team together on this whole thing and crush real.
Apple would provide the software, and M$ would provide funding, and make (literally force) websites to recognize Quicktime and force them to use it otherwise M$ would boycott it.
I think Apple should renew it's agreement with M$ but change it slightly. Make IE ship default on Macs and make Quicktime ship default for PC.