Refurb 13" macbook pro is about the same price as an equal Air, sanity check?

[iemcj]

So you can get a refurbish 13" 2018 macbook pro with 16 gigs of ram and 512 gig ssd for 1869.

The equal BTO 13" 2018 Macbook air with 16 gigs of ram and 512gig ssd is 1799.

So to me it seems to be a no brainer to pay the extra 70 bucks to get a brighter screen, quad core CPU, and 2 more usb-C ports.

Am I missing something here cuz the pro seems so much better here. I'm coming from a 2010 macbook pro so they're BOTH incredibly thin to me so that's a non factor to me. Is the battery life exponentially better on the Air? Just want to make sure I'm not missing something simple here haha.

 

[Larvas]

It's a no brainer, go with the mbp.

 

[Airboy1466]

coming from a core 2 duo you will notice a huge difference no matter which you choose its more of which design do you prefer and the new gen 3 keyboard on the air is sooooooo much better.

 

[AlexJoda]

coming from a core 2 duo you will notice a huge difference no matter which you choose its more of which design do you prefer and the new gen 3 keyboard on the air is sooooooo much better.

Doesn’t the 2018 MBP also have the gen 3 keyboard?

 

[Rick America]

Yup...no brainer...I bought the exact same refurb about a month ago...very happy I did!!!

 

[iemcj]

coming from a core 2 duo you will notice a huge difference no matter which you choose its more of which design do you prefer and the new gen 3 keyboard on the air is sooooooo much better.

The 2018 model has the same gen 3 keyboard from what I garnered on apples website.

 

[Airboy1466]

The 2018 model has the same gen 3 keyboard from what I garnered on apples website.

Yeah I just read it was 2018 not 17 it was a miss read then for you it’s the mbp with Touch Bar hands down ports on both sides

 

[posguy99]

Doesn’t the 2018 MBP also have the gen 3 keyboard?

Well, you shouldn't buy anything that has that keyboard, of course.

The advantage to the Air is that it's lighter. I don't know of any other.

 

[iemcj]

Well, you shouldn't buy anything that has that keyboard, of course.

What do you mean? I know there were some problems with last years model and the keys getting crumbs stuck in there but aren't they good again?

 

[Airboy1466]

What do you mean? I know there were some problems with last years model and the keys getting crumbs stuck in there but aren't they good again?

good yes perfect no people are still reporting problems, I love the new keyboard takes some getting used to but I hate typing on my 2015 air now this keys are so much softer. they are just so wide you have to travel a lot more

 

[kreasonos]

So you can get a refurbish 13" 2018 macbook pro with 16 gigs of ram and 512 gig ssd for 1869.

The equal BTO 13" 2018 Macbook air with 16 gigs of ram and 512gig ssd is 1799.

So to me it seems to be a no brainer to pay the extra 70 bucks to get a brighter screen, quad core CPU, and 2 more usb-C ports.

Am I missing something here cuz the pro seems so much better here. I'm coming from a 2010 macbook pro so they're BOTH incredibly thin to me so that's a non factor to me. Is the battery life exponentially better on the Air? Just want to make sure I'm not missing something simple here haha.

Depends how much you hate the Touch Bar.

 

[posguy99]

What do you mean? I know there were some problems with last years model and the keys getting crumbs stuck in there but aren't they good again?

No, they're the same keyboard. Apple put the membrane in there that they claim is to reduce noise but is really there to reduce the dust ingress. The 2016-2017-2018 all have basically the same keyboard with the '17 and '18 just having minor changes, Apple trying to fix their basic mistake.

The *major* difference is that Apple has the repair program for the 2016-2017 keyboard. It does *not* cover the 2018 keyboard despite it being basically the same keyboard.

 

[lambertjohn]

Back to the initial focus of this thread, I just bought a 2017 13" MBP nTB from the apple refurb store for $1439. Includes 256GB HD, 16GB RAM, 500 NIT screen and 2.3GHz CPU. The same 2018 Air would have been $1599 minus the better screen and faster CPU but adding the Gen 3 keyboard and fingerprint sensor. With that being said, I still think the 2017 MBP is the better deal.

 

[Macintoshrumors]

Well, you shouldn't buy anything that has that keyboard, of course.

The advantage to the Air is that it's lighter. I don't know of any other.

What a moronic thing to say, the keyboard is fine, you only hear about the bad from a few people out of the total community bc the ones that don’t have problems (like me) are not telling the world about it. The keyboard is fine. Not everyone is having issues with it.

 

[Falcon80]

Back to the initial focus of this thread, I just bought a 2017 13" MBP nTB from the apple refurb store for $1439. Includes 256GB HD, 16GB RAM, 500 NIT screen and 2.3GHz CPU. The same 2018 Air would have been $1599 minus the better screen and faster CPU but adding the Gen 3 keyboard and fingerprint sensor. With that being said, I still think the 2017 MBP is the better deal.

Any idea if the 4 year keyboard warranty is applicable to refurbished Mac from the date of purchase?

 

[iemcj]

Depends how much you hate the Touch Bar.

Is it really that big of a deal? I don't see myself really using it for anything to be honest but I don't mind that it's there. It's not like it's really in the way of anything is it?

 

[revmacian]

So you can get a refurbish 13" 2018 macbook pro with 16 gigs of ram and 512 gig ssd for 1869.

The equal BTO 13" 2018 Macbook air with 16 gigs of ram and 512gig ssd is 1799.

So to me it seems to be a no brainer to pay the extra 70 bucks to get a brighter screen, quad core CPU, and 2 more usb-C ports.

Am I missing something here cuz the pro seems so much better here. I'm coming from a 2010 macbook pro so they're BOTH incredibly thin to me so that's a non factor to me. Is the battery life exponentially better on the Air? Just want to make sure I'm not missing something simple here haha.

There is no "equal" MacBook Air when talking about a MacBook Pro. The CPU in the MBA cannot be upgraded and these two machines are actually targeted at different demographics. Keep in mind that, while performance in a refurb model can be equal to that of a new machine, there can be scratches on the outer casing that the buyer would not be aware of at time of purchase.

 

[lambertjohn]

Any idea if the 4 year keyboard warranty is applicable to refurbished Mac from the date of purchase?

The warranty is not based on the date of purchase, but rather, on the date the 2017 Pro (refurbished or new, doesn't matter) was first released to the public for sale. I think that's how it works. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[iemcj]

There is no "equal" MacBook Air when talking about a MacBook Pro. The CPU in the MBA cannot be upgraded and these two machines are actually targeted at different demographics. Keep in mind that, while performance in a refurb model can be equal to that of a new machine, there can be scratches on the outer casing that the buyer would not be aware of at time of purchase.

Equal as in same amount of storage space, same amount of ram, same size screen. While the air may be targeted at the cheaper demographic, that's not really relevant.

And I don't much care if there's a few more scratches (though in my experience with apple refurbish, there isn't any) since that's going to happen naturally. I'm comparing things that actually matter you know?

 

[revmacian]

Equal as in same amount of storage space, same amount of ram, same size screen. While the air may be targeted at the cheaper demographic, that's not really relevant.

And I don't much care if there's a few more scratches (though in my experience with apple refurbish, there isn't any) since that's going to happen naturally. I'm comparing things that actually matter you know?

Yes, I know.. things that matter.. like the CPU.

It's ok. You suffered a poor choice of words and now you're trying to save face. It happens, no biggie.

 

[iemcj]

Yes, I know.. things that matter.. like the CPU.

It's ok. You suffered a poor choice of words and now you're trying to save face. It happens, no biggie.

Holy crap dude, what's wrong with you?

 

[posguy99]

The warranty is not based on the date of purchase, but rather, on the date the 2017 Pro (refurbished or new, doesn't matter) was first released to the public for sale. I think that's how it works. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

You're wrong. Why can't people be bothered to read...

https://www.apple.com/support/keyboard-service-program-for-macbook-and-macbook-pro/

"The program covers eligible MacBook and MacBook Pro models for 4 years after the first retail sale of the unit."
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The keyboard is fine. Not everyone is having issues with it.

The keyboard is, in fact, so NOT fine that Apple instituted a four year repair program for it.

 

[AppleHaterLover]

You're wrong. Why can't people be bothered to read...

https://www.apple.com/support/keyboard-service-program-for-macbook-and-macbook-pro/

"The program covers eligible MacBook and MacBook Pro models for 4 years after the first retail sale of the unit."
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The keyboard is, in fact, so NOT fine that Apple instituted a four year repair program for it.

He said not everyone is having issues with it.

I am one of those people.

So he's right.

 

[kreasonos]

Is it really that big of a deal? I don't see myself really using it for anything to be honest but I don't mind that it's there. It's not like it's really in the way of anything is it?

For me it is a big enough deal that I’ll take a MBA over the Pro because of it.

 

[Falcon80]

The warranty is not based on the date of purchase, but rather, on the date the 2017 Pro (refurbished or new, doesn't matter) was first released to the public for sale. I think that's how it works. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Apple Care support team cannot give me an answer unless I provide them with a serial number to check. Will you be able to do that ?