Refurb 13" macbook pro is about the same price as an equal Air, sanity check?

Discussion in 'MacBook Air' started by iemcj, Dec 10, 2018.

  1. iemcj macrumors 6502

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    So you can get a refurbish 13" 2018 macbook pro with 16 gigs of ram and 512 gig ssd for 1869.

    The equal BTO 13" 2018 Macbook air with 16 gigs of ram and 512gig ssd is 1799.

    So to me it seems to be a no brainer to pay the extra 70 bucks to get a brighter screen, quad core CPU, and 2 more usb-C ports.

    Am I missing something here cuz the pro seems so much better here. I'm coming from a 2010 macbook pro so they're BOTH incredibly thin to me so that's a non factor to me. Is the battery life exponentially better on the Air? Just want to make sure I'm not missing something simple here haha.
     
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  3. Airboy1466 macrumors 6502

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    coming from a core 2 duo you will notice a huge difference no matter which you choose its more of which design do you prefer and the new gen 3 keyboard on the air is sooooooo much better.
     
  4. AlexJoda macrumors 6502a

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    Doesn’t the 2018 MBP also have the gen 3 keyboard?
     
  5. Rick America macrumors member

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    Yup...no brainer...I bought the exact same refurb about a month ago...very happy I did!!!
     
  6. iemcj thread starter macrumors 6502

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    The 2018 model has the same gen 3 keyboard from what I garnered on apples website.
     
  7. Airboy1466 macrumors 6502

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    Yeah I just read it was 2018 not 17 it was a miss read then for you it’s the mbp with Touch Bar hands down ports on both sides
     
  8. posguy99 macrumors 6502a

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    Well, you shouldn't buy anything that has that keyboard, of course.

    The advantage to the Air is that it's lighter. I don't know of any other.
     
  9. iemcj thread starter macrumors 6502

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    What do you mean? I know there were some problems with last years model and the keys getting crumbs stuck in there but aren't they good again?
     
  10. Airboy1466 macrumors 6502

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    good yes perfect no people are still reporting problems, I love the new keyboard takes some getting used to but I hate typing on my 2015 air now this keys are so much softer. they are just so wide you have to travel a lot more
     
  11. kreasonos macrumors 6502

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    Depends how much you hate the Touch Bar.
     
  12. posguy99 macrumors 6502a

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    No, they're the same keyboard. Apple put the membrane in there that they claim is to reduce noise but is really there to reduce the dust ingress. The 2016-2017-2018 all have basically the same keyboard with the '17 and '18 just having minor changes, Apple trying to fix their basic mistake.

    The *major* difference is that Apple has the repair program for the 2016-2017 keyboard. It does *not* cover the 2018 keyboard despite it being basically the same keyboard.
     
  13. lambertjohn macrumors 6502a

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    Back to the initial focus of this thread, I just bought a 2017 13" MBP nTB from the apple refurb store for $1439. Includes 256GB HD, 16GB RAM, 500 NIT screen and 2.3GHz CPU. The same 2018 Air would have been $1599 minus the better screen and faster CPU but adding the Gen 3 keyboard and fingerprint sensor. With that being said, I still think the 2017 MBP is the better deal.
     
  14. Macintoshrumors macrumors 6502

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    What a moronic thing to say, the keyboard is fine, you only hear about the bad from a few people out of the total community bc the ones that don’t have problems (like me) are not telling the world about it. The keyboard is fine. Not everyone is having issues with it.
     
  15. Falcon80 macrumors 6502

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    Any idea if the 4 year keyboard warranty is applicable to refurbished Mac from the date of purchase?
     
  16. iemcj thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Is it really that big of a deal? I don't see myself really using it for anything to be honest but I don't mind that it's there. It's not like it's really in the way of anything is it?
     
  17. revmacian macrumors 6502a

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    There is no "equal" MacBook Air when talking about a MacBook Pro. The CPU in the MBA cannot be upgraded and these two machines are actually targeted at different demographics. Keep in mind that, while performance in a refurb model can be equal to that of a new machine, there can be scratches on the outer casing that the buyer would not be aware of at time of purchase.
     
  18. lambertjohn macrumors 6502a

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    The warranty is not based on the date of purchase, but rather, on the date the 2017 Pro (refurbished or new, doesn't matter) was first released to the public for sale. I think that's how it works. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
     
  19. iemcj thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Equal as in same amount of storage space, same amount of ram, same size screen. While the air may be targeted at the cheaper demographic, that's not really relevant.

    And I don't much care if there's a few more scratches (though in my experience with apple refurbish, there isn't any) since that's going to happen naturally. I'm comparing things that actually matter you know?
     
  20. revmacian macrumors 6502a

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    Yes, I know.. things that matter.. like the CPU.

    It's ok. You suffered a poor choice of words and now you're trying to save face. It happens, no biggie.
     
  21. iemcj thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Holy crap dude, what's wrong with you?
     
  22. posguy99 macrumors 6502a

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    You're wrong. Why can't people be bothered to read...

    https://www.apple.com/support/keyboard-service-program-for-macbook-and-macbook-pro/

    "The program covers eligible MacBook and MacBook Pro models for 4 years after the first retail sale of the unit."
    --- Post Merged, Dec 13, 2018 ---
    The keyboard is, in fact, so NOT fine that Apple instituted a four year repair program for it.
     
  23. AppleHaterLover macrumors 68000

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    He said not everyone is having issues with it.

    I am one of those people.

    So he's right.
     
  24. kreasonos macrumors 6502

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    For me it is a big enough deal that I’ll take a MBA over the Pro because of it.
     
  25. Falcon80 macrumors 6502

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    Apple Care support team cannot give me an answer unless I provide them with a serial number to check. Will you be able to do that ?
     

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