Religion and Dates

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  1. Squilly macrumors 68020

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    I was thinking, the US follows the Mayan calendar. We, as a country, claim to be in a practice-your-own-religion zone with no real consequences other than from the people around you. Day 0 (year 0?) was something about the birth or death of Christ or something. Why is it we follow that? I'm Jewish but I'm basing this off of factors such as when dates started to be recorded by humanity. Based on a quick Google search, that's 5773 or 5774. Why do we follow year 0 being based off of a specific religion? Just because? I don't know too much about the religion so please elaborate if I'm wrong.
     
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    There is no Year Zero on the Gregorian calendar, and we definitely don't follow the old Mayan setup.

    The Gregorian goes from 1BC to 1AD. It's one of the things that makes it a little confusing when compared with other calendars.
     
  3. ucfgrad93 macrumors P6

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    1. We follow the Gregorian Calendar not the Mayan calendar.

    2. Most Biblical scholars agree that Jesus was born 6 and 4 BCE.
     
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    I'm not sure where you got the idea that the US follows the Mayan calendar...interesting concept.

    As you said you don't know too much about it, I did an exhaustive and time consuming search, and found this carefully hidden bit of information about the Gregorian calendar, the one we (and a few others) use.
     
  5. Squilly thread starter macrumors 68020

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    1BC = Before Christ
    1AD = After Death

    And we don't follow that?
     
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    By that logic, Jesus lived for one year.:rolleyes:
     
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    Yeah, we follow that. AD means Anno Domini, by the way. Latin for "Year of the Lord".
     
  8. Shrink macrumors G3

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    Did you read the link in my post above?

    Or is it too much trouble to do your own learning?:)
     
  9. Squilly thread starter macrumors 68020

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    I skimmed through it. There's no mention of AD/BC.
     
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    You mean, for example, where this isn't mentioned...

    Source
     
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    Based on your posting history, that's your problem. Always looking for a short cut.
     
  12. Shrink macrumors G3

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    Much easier for us to do the work...and much more attention getting.
     
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    "Year of the Lord" doesn't give it away? And before 1AD

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    Not always a bad thing.
     
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    In your case, it kind of is. You don't put the effort in to discover a good shortcut. Rather, you go for the easiest route the moment you see it.

    In this case, instead of reading the wikipedia article then asking someone to explain certain parts in more detail, thereby expanding upon what you've already discovered yourself, you just skim through it, then say "I didn't see that during the 5 seconds I spent reading the section titles, what does it mean".

    The former makes you look like you're trying. The latter, lazy.
     
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    That very sad attitude is understandable, not excusable, but understandable, coming from a 19 year old.

    I can only hope that your growth, if it occurs, changes that awful approach to life.
     
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    That's why the CE/BCE notation has come into use -- to be more neutral or sensitive to non-Christians.

     
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    That's a common mistranslation. You really don't see a problem with one year being "before" and the second being after the death of?
     
  19. yg17 macrumors G5

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    It's not like the US picked this method of numbering years. BC and AD predate the existence of the US by a good 1,700 years or so. Sure, the US could've used something like the singing of the Declaration of Independence for year zero, resulting in BDI and ADI and making today December 14, 237 ADI, but that would not be practical given the rest of the world uses BC/AD.

    5774 is the year according to the Jewish calendar, but even Israel uses the Gregorian calendar, with BC and AD (or maybe BCE/ACE, same thing). The Jewish calendar is used for religious purposes, like to determine dates when the Jewish holidays fall. No one uses it in practice. Ask any Israeli what year it is right now and they'll tell you 2013.
     
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    Substitute BCE for BC and CE for AD and the "Christ referencing" is avoided.
     
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    I'm open to suggestions as to a good starting point for year 1. How about the first year that a substantial society in the Middle East, the cradle of human civilization started keeping calendars? :)
     
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    Self-realization?
     
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    Hence why many non-Christians prefer to use CE, or "Common Era".

    EDIT: Should have read through the whole thread before posting.
     
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    I vote for totally scraping the existing calendar system and replacing it with the Star Trek star date system.
     
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    Does no one else find it disturbing that a 19 year of did not know what the AD stood for?

    That is something that is covered in just about every middle school ad high school history class from what I remember.

    That something I learned in middle school for gods sake.
     
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