Report Card for the nations infrastructure

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  1. quagmire macrumors 603

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    And we fail big time. :(

    This is where that stimulus bill's money should be going to, IMHO( I may be a bit biased due to aviation is where my career is going to be).

    http://www.asce.org/reportcard/2009/grades.html
     
  2. Bobdude161 macrumors 65816

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    Can we get a curve, please?

    This is everything we need to spend a trillion dollars on. Schools especially.
     
  3. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    Too bad the stimulus devoted to infastructure will juuuuust cover the bridges.
     
  4. CalBoy macrumors 604

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    America's infrastructure has been aging for quite some time now. I'm surprised more of these didn't have an "F" next to them.

    On the bright side, if we act relatively quickly, we can replace failing infrastructure with newer, more efficient infrastructure that will end up helping our society for years to come.

    On the realistic side, no one will give a damn after this report leaves our short-term memory, and we'll just have even bigger problems when the next hurricane, earthquake, blizzard, etc, comes rolling through.
     
  5. mactastic macrumors 68040

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    This is exactly where the stimulus should be going. Get companies like Caterpillar cranking. Get bunches of guys (and some gals) into their boots and get them on the job. Get manufacturers producing the concrete and glass and steel and gypsum and wood and all the other little bits and pieces that go into these kinds of things.

    Create bunches of new jobs that pay well enough to allow people to start spending again, and once they start spending the restaurants and movie theaters and Starbucks and retailers galore begin to see improvements, and you can jump-start the economy into a self-sustaining cycle.

    Giving people money in this environment, and they'll save it out of fear. Give people a job in this environment, and they'll begin to spend again.
     
  6. Desertrat macrumors newbie

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    "...once they start spending the restaurants and movie theaters and Starbucks and retailers galore begin to see improvements, and you can jump-start the economy into a self-sustaining cycle."

    Well, sorta. I'm dubious about "self-sustaining". I keep coming back to the question, "Where's the money coming from?" If the only real answer is, "Federal deficits," then it's a false prosperity, with ever-declining purchasing power and ever-rising consumer price inflation.
     
  7. mactastic macrumors 68040

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    Obviously any boom created won't last forever -- no boom ever does. But if the government would decrease spending and slowly increase taxes during the boom times; it will have the resources to run deficits in the slack times. Then, when spending picks up and jobs are created, the federal treasury sees increased tax revenue. Fewer people are receiving unemployment assistance and welfare and food stamps. The burden on the government eases in addition to tax revenue increasing.

    Of course, we're in a bad spot right now, because Mr. Fiscal Responsibility managed to take government surpluses and turn them into massive record deficits during the boom time. That means that instead of being in a halfway decent fiscal position come Bad Times, we're starting off from "totally ****ed" fiscally.

    Massive tax cuts and increased spending are things you do during the Bad Times. Unfortunately, conservatives think thats what you do ALL the time.
     
  8. Desertrat macrumors newbie

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    "Massive tax cuts and increased spending are things you do during the Bad Times."

    True. IF you cut taxes on the producers. IF you spend in useful places without pork or frou-frou. It gripes me that so little of this "stimulus package" is going to actual infrastructure rehab.
     
  9. mactastic macrumors 68040

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    No disagreement there 'Rat. Can the tax rebates, and put it all into infrastructure rehab. Screw the GOP and their silly demands for tax cuts that they then vote against anyway. Get people working, not waiting for the government to send them a check.
     
  10. Desertrat macrumors newbie

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    Tax cuts which would keep employers' doors open and workers employed are not silly. IMO, those cuts would be better than paying unemployment. Tax cuts in the form of rebates of some sort are indeed silly, IMO.
     
  11. mactastic macrumors 68040

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    If a business isn't making a profit, a tax cut will not help them one bit. Remember, unlike individuals, businesses only pay tax on profits, not on gross revenue.

    What businesses in trouble need are customers. Tax cuts will not keep the doors open at a business that isn't able to meet it's monthly operating expenses.
     

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