Republican lunatic: "Global Warming is not a problem because God says so"

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  1. Evangelion macrumors 68040

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    "Rep. John Shimkus (R-IL) is running to be the head of the Energy and Commerce Committee, which has a key role in climate policy. And he created a stir a couple weeks ago after he reiterated his belief that global warming is not a problem because God has promised he wouldn't destroy the Earth again after Noah's flood. "

    http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2010/11/new_house_climate_czar.php

    He also keeps on talking about how "theory of global warming says that Earth is going to be destroyed". So, this moron wants to run the Energy and Commerce Committee, and he has zero clue about what the theory of global warming actually says? No, Earth is not going to be "destroyed", it would just be less pleasant for humans to live in.

    Sometimes I think that at some point people who support republicans will get too embarrassed of the GOP to support them. But then I remember that core of GOP-supporters is composed of deranged Bible-thumbers. And the party reflects that fact.

    The Republican Party: replacing science with Bible-stories.
     
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    Dumb ass. Look at the worlds. God promised not to destroy the earth. God said nothing about human destroying the earth. Free will is what will allow humans to destroy the earth. That point alone takes out his entire agrument and stays with in the bounds of religious rules.
     
  4. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    If you can't even understand the problem, what are the chances of solving it?

    We handed the reins of government back over to idiots.

    We deserve everything we get.
     
  5. mcrain macrumors 68000

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    +1
     
  6. fivepoint macrumors 65816

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    I don't believe in man-made global warming, I do believe in God, but this has to be the worst argument ever:
    ;)
     
  7. Kestrel452 macrumors regular

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    You realize that him being Republican doesn't have anything to do with his religious zealousy? During the healthcare vote some Democratic congressman voted against it and touted how it would ruin his salvation.
     
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    Is this because "he" was not capitised, or that He would dispatch His minions to do the deed. ;)
     
  9. Rt&Dzine macrumors 6502a

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    Point taken. Not all idiots are Republican. :p
     
  10. dukebound85 macrumors P6

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    and why don't you believe in man-mad global warming. Do you just choose to deny the facts?
     
  11. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    Even Rep. John Shmuckus admitted that the climate was changing. He simply threw up his hands and said that the problem was too big to solve. He thinks that we should instead rejoice in our ability to travel the Northwest Passage and grow vegetables in Greenland.

    That's nice. :rolleyes:

    Well, how's about we start thinking about tropical diseases will migrate north as the climate warms? How about if we start thinking about managing our coastal lowlands to accommodate sea level rises?

    No sane person expects the Earth to be destroyed. On the other hand, no sane person would simply wait for the effects of climate change to hit before they take measures to mitigate them.
     
  12. fivepoint, Nov 23, 2010
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    Believing in climate change (an obvious and naturally occurring repetitive global phenomenon) and human-made global warming (an obvious fallacy and gross misrepresentation of the facts in order to fulfill a pre-determined desire for humans in this time and in this place to be more important and more harmful than they really are) are two very different things.
     
  13. Blue Velvet Moderator emeritus

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    You know absolutely nothing about climate science. Please go ahead and demonstrate for us the 'obvious fallacy' and 'gross misrepresentation of the facts'... and don't bother with anything from Cato or Heritage or any number of wingnut factories, because they're not climate scientists, either.

    Oh, and you can also leave out Joe Barton's 2006 Congressional Report as it's been recently found to be distorted and plagiarised, common behaviour amongst Republicans, Conservatives, Compassionate Conservatives Libertarians.
     
  14. zioxide macrumors 603

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    God doesn't exist.

    If he did, morons like this ****ing clown wouldn't ever have been born.

    Religion was just developed to keep retards like this guy controlled.
     
  15. fivepoint, Nov 23, 2010
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    Don't worry, Blue... even though you're not living in 'special times'... I still think you're 'special.'
    Secular humanists intrigue me... they so clearly and obviously duplicate other religion's desire for apocalyptic teachings (global warming) and the teachings of enlightened prophets ('climate scientists') to help them perceive the future as something more relevant and easily manipulated by their puny existence. That's all fine, but the humorous aspect is that they do this while simultaneously berating others for doing the same.
     
  16. Blue Velvet Moderator emeritus

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    This has got nothing to do with being special. Not one of the IPCC's reports claims anything about being 'special', which is just another weak attempt to mischaracterise the issue.

    Why not just answer the question? I'm asking you to back up your claims of 'obvious fallacies' and 'gross misrepresentations' so that we can all judge the verity of what it is you're saying... because I wouldn't want anyone to think that you're a liar.
     
  17. fivepoint, Nov 23, 2010
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  18. Blue Velvet Moderator emeritus

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    Precisely.

    Your attempts to drag the issue onto grounds that suit your beliefs — I won't even flatter you by calling it an argument — are cute and all, but we'd like to hear your justifications for your claims of 'obvious fallacies' and 'gross misrepresentations'.

    What's your evidence for saying this?
     
  19. mcrain, Nov 23, 2010
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    Are those personal insults FP?

    Fivepoint, I too am curious to hear what scientific research you have based your hypothesis, theory and/or conclusion that man has NOT played a role in global warming.

    Numerous? How about the vast majority of climatologists. How about something like 99% of climatologists.

    Anyway, my point was that there has been widespread famine and catastrophe. N. Africa. The dust bowl in the US during the 20-30s (man made catastrophe by the way). Can anyone imagine how much worse things would be if we as humans had not figured out a way to manufacture nitrogen fertilizer? Without that one advance, could we support the number of people we have today? Would we be able to resist the effects of periodic natural cycles like el nina, el nino, etc...?
     
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    Right, and if you had bothered to have any knowledge of this field besides what you hear on the news, you would see that humans are producing a much more profound/rapid change in climate that what has been observed in the past

    Do you really think that just greatly altering the natural cycle of carbon/nitrogen won't have any consequences at all? There is much data that the increase in carbon in the atmosphere has added a net effect of about 4 watts per meter squared over the entire surface of the globe via an enhanced greenhouse effect. And as anyone knows, an increase in energy leads to an increase in temeperature

    Here is a good basic background on this matter
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ucrx6q4mb8
     
  21. Gelfin macrumors 68020

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    Even allowing for this idiot's religion, he's still an idiot. In Christian terms I would have criticized his hubris at presuming to fully know the mind of God. It's like taking it as a given that God loves little children, and concluding therefore that it's okay to wildly fire a machine gun in a nursery because he has faith God will protect the infants from harm.

    To refine the idiot's point, God promised he would never again flood the world. It's the whole rainbow thing. In fact, quite the contrary, we are promised that next time God gets an itch to kill us all, it will be by burning the Earth.

    Besides which, even if we accept his misunderstanding of his own religion (boy, that's unusual :rolleyes:), God allegedly promised not to destroy the world, but said nothing about whether he would allow us, using that wonderful "free will" by which a perfect God somehow ended up creating an everything with sin in it, to do the job ourselves.

    Edit: Alternatively, he probably secretly thinks we will destroy the world, but knows God owes us a Rapture between now and then, very optimistically believes he's one of the 144,000 for whom that is supposed to be a good thing, and sincerely intends to hasten that outcome any way he can.
     
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    Please, we all know you didn't even think of that until you read that article. You haven't come up with a single argument in PRSI on your own, except for maybe one which was ludicrous anyway (The liberal north wanted slaves to be counted as a full citizen to get the "black vote").
     
  23. Evangelion, Nov 24, 2010
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    You are full of crap. But I shouldn't be surprised, republicans, Tea Partyers and the like routinely ignore science when it's at odds with their misguided ideology.
     
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    Somebody didn't read the small print. "Terms & Conditions May Apply".
     
  25. Evangelion thread starter macrumors 68040

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    "Past performance is no guarantee of future results"
     

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