Republicans Win Special Elections in New York & Nevada

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by ucfgrad93, Sep 13, 2011.

  1. ucfgrad93 macrumors P6

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    I'm surprised that the Democrats lost in a district that they had a 3 to 1 advantage in registered voters.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44501985/ns/politics/#.TnBLrM0_bLs
     
  2. leekohler macrumors G5

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    Just goes to show you that the country is full of not so bright people. They keep this p and the country will be in the crapper and on the verge of theocracy. Might as well kiss our civil rights and economy goodbye if this does not stop.
     
  3. stubeeef macrumors 68030

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    it is bush's fault.
    Democrats are mad that Obama is too moderate so they voted in a Republican.
    (only here in mrprsf can someone be surprised)
     
  4. ucfgrad93 thread starter macrumors P6

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    So Republicans only win because stupid people vote for them? Nice.:rolleyes:
     
  5. bradl macrumors 68040

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    Partially.

    These elections, especially the one in Nevada, were the result of two problems, similar to what happened in Massachusetts:

    1) The Blues played it too easy, thinking that their race was a sure win, and

    2) The Reds were more active in playing to their constituent's fears.

    So it was the lack of activity on the Blues' part, and the stupidity/naivety/lack of will to think for themselves on the Reds' part, that won the Reds' these elections. Sometimes, you really can't argue with stupid, so you have to beat them with knowledge; knowledge AND activity. This is the 2nd time this has happened, and should be a definite wake-up call to the Blues, especially going into the major election year.

    BL.
     
  6. leekohler macrumors G5

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    Pretty much hit the nail on the head. At this point, after all they've done to screw up the country, I cannot believe anyone would vote Republican.
     
  7. OutThere macrumors 603

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    Unfortunately, per the article, this isn't quite how it played out in New York. The democratic candidate raised twice as much money as the republican and outside groups spent $700,000 on the democrat, while similar groups spent only $50,000 on the republican. The article explains that orthodox Jews in the Brooklyn district, traditionally democrats, are uncomfortable with Obama's Israel policy. What a way to pick your representative.
     
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    Kind of like what you've done to this forum, you've dumbed it down to democratsgood republicansbad. You're doing a great job of marginalizing yourself.
     
  9. leekohler macrumors G5

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    That seems to be the way it goes these days- it's all about religion. How pathetic.
     
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    I'm not so sure this is what happened. Weprin, the Democratic candidate is an Orthodox Jew. Are you saying the Jews in Williamsburg chose a Catholic over an Orthodox Jew because of Israel?

    Let's face it, religion didn't fuel this race, dissatisfaction with Obama and Democrats did.
     
  11. iJohnHenry macrumors P6

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    This is what concerns me the most.

    Are people finally fed-up with the Republican demands and the Democratic waffling, and are ready for a party with fiber, however immoral??

    ****ing scary for you guys, and us too, by extension.
     
  12. Thomas Veil macrumors 68020

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    First off, if you follow lee, he hardly thinks the Democrats are good, just that they're a lesser evil than the Republicans.

    Second, if Republicans are against civil rights and a prosperous economy for all, and someone says that, they're merely reflecting the reality on the ground. That's hardly the same thing as dumbing down the forum.

    Third, plenty enough people agree with lee on various issues. He's hardly "marginalized."

    On the topic at hand, Obama's weak, centrist approach is turning off his base, and that's rubbing off on all the other Democratic candidates. Obama's got to stop saying things like "Pass this entire jobs bill" and then three days later going, "Well, we'll settle for parts of it."
     
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    In the New York race, lets not forget that the seat Bob Turner won was vacated by Anthony Weiner. That whole sexting thing was a huge embarrassment and its not surprising to me that normally Democratic voters were a bit demoralized.

    District 9 will likely be eliminated anyway by 2013.
     
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    I think you're right especially since one of the seats was held as a democrat seat since the 1930s.
     
  15. MyDesktopBroke macrumors 6502

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    Weiner's seat is a bad loss for dems, but if you look at the election results in the last few years, Weiner's margin of victory was never huge. Koch's Israel mania didn't help, either.

    The Nevada seat has never been held by a democrat, so no surprise there.
     
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    I think Israel had a lot to do with this. Turner used Weprin's support of the not-mosque at not-ground zero against him and to make it sounds like the Catholic was a bigger supporter of Israel than the orthodox Jew. And unfortunately, the idiots in that district bought it.
     
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    It's called cutting your nose off to spite your face, or shooting yourself in the foot especially if you are a Democrat who is mad at Obama for being too moderate. Working class, Middle class (what few are left) who vote for Republicans, as the Republican Party currently exists, are committing a self destructive act. Any empathy the Republican Party has for you is only to get a vote, a byproduct of their pandering to big business and the wealthy.
     
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    Maybe after the country is reduced to a pseudo-feudal state, the voters will stop believing the fairy tales.
     
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    There is another wrinkle to this story that helps explain this defeat. NY is redistricting, and this district is being eliminated. The neighboring districts have Democrats holding the seats, and the local Democrat party didn't want to have a strong candidate in this seat that might potentially run against one of the others in the general election. What they picked was a weak candidate who had no intention of running in the general election. On top of that, the GOP was targetting NY-09 for elimination. It's a lot harder to justify eliminating a traditional democrat seat when it's currently filled with a Republican. Right?
     
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    That's pretty much it, yes.

    If one of these whack job presidential candidates gets in, it would be wise for many gay people to leave the US if they want to see any civil rights in their life time. I would have to seriously consider it, as it could set us back 20 years or more, if not worse. I would like to live in a country that values us, not demonizes us. I'm tired of it.
     
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    Especially considering that Weiner was one of the loudest voices on behalf of the liberal Democrats.

    This.

    Maybe, maybe not. As long as the conservative media continue to keep so many uninformed voters in thrall, as long as stupid people are willing to follow a party and its media arm that preach, "Don't believe anybody else, don't believe your own eyes, just believe us, because we and only we have the magical T*R*U*T*H," the situation will continue to deteriorate.

    This might also be the attitude of people who want jobs, social security, etc. If we could look thirty or forty years into the future, it'd be ironic though not surprising if we found that emigration of native-born American citizens to countries that want to be smart and successful was common.
     
  22. stubeeef, Sep 14, 2011
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    This is just too rich.
    As years of posts proclaim>Barry is brilliant after all he was Harvard Law Review.
    AND
    Those who don't see his greatness are haters and racists:rolleyes:

    Do any Democrats decide to take up the hater racist mantle and dare challenge one so brilliant?:p
     
  23. leekohler, Sep 14, 2011
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    Who said anything about Obama? You think anybody's happy with Obama? Once again, you've shown you can't take a look at the big picture.
     
  24. rdowns, Sep 14, 2011
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    What happened to you? You used to be a contributing member of PRSI. Now all you do is post troll-like comments like this. Sad.
     

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