Retired Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson On Republican Party: My Party Is Full Of Racists

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  1. Coleman2010, Oct 27, 2012
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    Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson's remarks:
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/24230825@N02/8126411358/

    Full interview:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qFvBK2Qrp4

     
  2. leenak, Oct 27, 2012
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    Duh?

    Seriously, Obama is said to have more death threats than any other president. I think that many people didn't think he would win and were shocked. Sure, there may be people that aren't that happy with his policies. As a person who will be voting for him, I don't feel he is my ideal option but I feel he is the better option right now. I think though that there are many people that just want him out of the office based on the color of his skin.
     
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    In other breaking news, bears **** in the woods.
     
  4. jnpy!$4g3cwk macrumors 65816

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    I know people change political parties more reluctantly than they change religions, but, I don't understand why the good Colonel just hasn't given up on the Republican Party.
     
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    Perhaps he's trying to evoke change from within?
     
  6. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    I try not to put much stock in these kinds of conversions.

    Each party can point to someone who switched ranks.

    Perspectives change. People change.

    Or perhaps they just finally found out what they really believe.
     
  7. ugahairydawgs macrumors 68020

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    There are racist people everywhere and they go Democrat and Republican. This notion that this is a Republican problem only needs to only look at the stuff that Mia Love out in Utah has had to put up with during her run for Congress.

    Racism is a terrible thing and one that is probably never going away unfortunately. There are plenty of racists Republicans, but the Rs don't have a monopoly on racially hateful rhetoric.
     
  8. leekohler macrumors G5

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    Maybe not a monopoly, but pretty damn close. They do have a monopoly on anti-gay rhetoric, that's for sure.
     
  9. NewbieCanada macrumors 68030

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    I wouldn't say it's FULL of racists.

    But that's only because they always seem to have room for more.
     
  10. ugahairydawgs macrumors 68020

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    Nice deflection.
     
  11. zioxide macrumors 603

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    Nobody's trying to say that there are no racists in the democratic party, or the libertarian party, green party, whatever. There are bad apples in every bunch.

    That said, you can't argue the fact that a much higher proportion of the republican party is racist/sexist/homophobic than the rest of the political parties. Half of their platform is based on restricting the civil rights of two of these groups.

    When you have senior members of the party going on national tv saying that a former Secretary of State and 4 star general endorsed the President not because of the issues but solely because he's black, there's something wrong.
     
  12. glocke12 macrumors 6502a

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    What an idiot, and I am surprised that the intelligent members of macrumors would embrace this guys blanket statement. According to this guy I am racist because I am not voting for Obama???? Please...

    His statements are akin to a republican saying that the democratic party is full of socialists. Both statements have some truths, but neither statement can be applied to the D's or R's as a whole.

    Also, the democratic base has more than their fair share of racists. All those white, blue-colllar, unionized dock-workers, automobile factory workers, etc. that can't stand black people for one thing. I spent 5 years living in Newark, DE, home of one of the Chrysler plants, and got to know plenty of these union workers who were avowed democrats. These people were more racist than any R I know.

    Use your brain people.

    Lastly, who on earth actually watches MSNBC???
     
  13. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    I do. I love Rachel Maddow.
     
  14. bradl macrumors 68040

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    And here, you already lost the plot. He isn't saying just because you are not voting for Obama that you are racist. You're putting words into his mouth and trying to justify your own actions for your post based off of what he said. That is really sad.

    The only possible valid point you have (albeit barely).

    Quantify this. Please explain how these union workers in a Delaware plant are racist. Quantify how their job profession has to do with racism.

    I spent half my life in southern Oklahoma and northern Texas, and I've seen more racism down there (and been the victim of such attacks) than I have in the year I spent in Philadelphia and Mt. Laurel, NJ. Oklahoma, regardless of the professions their residents are in, is a very Red state, with a lot of bitterness still stemming from the outcomes of the Civil War and Jim Crow.

    In short, if you are really wanting to turn this into a racist thing against the Blues, you're fighting a seriously losing battle, unless this was the era of the 50s with the Southern Democrats.

    Pot. Kettle. Black.

    Citizenzen does. He loves Rachel Maddow. ;)

    And FYI, He has a brain, and exercises it regularly; a trait most Reds tended to have, but somehow lost between September 2008 and now.

    BL.
     
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    Bottom line...I have met more people who come across as racist that are white, blue collar, unionized people who call themselves democrats. I know some people who are republicans that I can call easily call racist, but not nearly as many as the first group I have mentioned. Sorry if this does not fit into your progressive idealistic world view.

    Furthermore, it was the Democratic Party that filibustered numerous Civil Rights Acts, that started the KKK and that imposed Jim Crow laws upon blacks.
     
  16. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    Some Southern Democrats are as/more conservative than Republicans, but could never align themselves with the party that went to war against the South.

    That may help to explain it.
     
  17. vega07 macrumors 65816

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    You can argue whatever you want, but there's no doubt that as of now, the Republican Party has a disproportionately larger number of racists.
     
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    Source, please.
     
  19. Mac'nCheese macrumors 68030

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    And Lincoln was a republican who freed the slaves. Parties change.
     
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    And yet you can't even provide even one anecdotal example of your claim, which is, at best, completely baseless. So until you do, your whole entire point as well as your post fails miserably.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Strategy

    Read your history and you might learn something, otherwise you may forever be ignorant of it and continue to repeat it.

    FWIW, everyone else, he is partially right, that the KKK and Jim Crow were mainly started by those who were Democrats. What he is neglecting to tell you is that those Democrats became Republicans during the civil Rights era, when the Democratic party started to court the Black and Native vote, supported integration, Voting Rights, and progressive ideologies that the Reds and Southern Democrats did not like, so they switched parties.

    They did try to get the Black and native vote back, with little success, to this very day.

    Something our friend here is very willing to neglect in his posts. But I'll offer another olive branch. glocke12, please offer even one anecdotal example of your statement that those Blues that you've met in unions in plants are racist. Offer that, and I'll counter with the numbers of stories I have of the opposite.

    BL.

    P.S. I'm not going to hold my breath on that offer.
     
  21. glocke12 macrumors 6502a

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    Dude, these people were my neighbors for years and I played music with them in bands also so got to know them and their families fairly well. There were many times I heard them refer to black people using derogatory remarks ("n" word repeatedly), racial jokes, and more. They made absolutely no effort to hide where they were coming from with respect to non-whites, and for that matter those who have same-sex partners. There were also some people that I knew beyond a doubt were KKK members which has a chapter just across the border in Rising Sun, MD.

    Contrast that to people I knew than, and know now are Republicans and/or are more right leaning who could care less what your sexual orientation or the color of your skin is.
     
  22. bradl macrumors 68040

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    So you are going to provide an anecdote (thank you, BTW) of something that happened YEARS ago and compare it to now? That's like trying to say that you don't like computers because you demoed an Apple IIe back i 1982 and couldn't understand it because you didn't know how to type.

    I'll admit, I have many a story about things years ago (in my case, nearly 30, in a deep Southern rural town), but I'll push that aside for now. 8 months ago, 2 black guys were trying to steal a car across the street from me. The owner caught them, and called the police (the chatter woke myself and my neighbors up). I saw the guy run down an alley and jump a fence. After telling them what I was going to do, I went inside, grabbed a MagLite, and ran over to the fence. One neighbor thought I was part of the gang that was stealing the car, jumped onto the fence with me and tried to pull me down, full of racial slurs. This neighbor happened to have Palin/McCain stickers all over his car and house, plus a proud member of the Tea Party. My other neighbors vouched for me as having nothing at all to do with this, and he let me go, but that isn't the point.

    This was less than a year ago. Compare that, and the images and signs commonly seen at Tea Party rallies to your "years ago". Bloody hell, even Archie grew up and got over his bigotry. Too bad people in the Republican party can't seem to do that, let alone grow up, period.

    BL.
     
  23. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    I've seen evidence showing that there are lots of racist democrats too (and posted it too), but the Republicans are clearly much more vocal about it.
     
  24. AlaskaMoose macrumors 65816

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    I am not a Republican, nor a Democrat, but I am old :D I have lived among both at the West and East coasts, the North and South, and voted with them too. Racism has nothing do do with being Republican, or Democrat, or politically independent like I am, and to have one side accusing the other of being racist makes no sense.

    If you look deep enough into it, you will realize that racism exists even among your own race, regardless of what your race may be.
     

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