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Review: Eve Cam Offers Privacy and Security With HomeKit Secure Video Integration

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Apple with iOS 13 introduced HomeKit Secure Video functionality, which allows home security cameras that adopt support to offer integration with iCloud and the Home app, along with improved security features.


Multiple companies have been developing cameras that work with HomeKit Secure Video, and Eve recently released its $150 Eve Cam, a new camera option that is compatible with HomeKit Secure Video.

Design

Design wise, Eve Cam looks like many other home security cameras on the market, offering a circular webcam-like shape with a rectangular base that allows the camera to be rotated and positioned in the ideal location to provide the best view of a room. It is made from a lightweight plastic material that doesn't exactly look cheap, but it doesn't scream quality either.


There's no mistaking it as anything but a camera, but the relatively small size, black color, and simple shape allow it to blend well with any decor. The flexible magnetic base allows the camera to be positioned in multiple ways to best suit the room where it's located. The hinge rotates 360 degrees around and 180 degrees up and down, so you can put the camera all the way flat if necessary to hide the video feed.


Eve Cam can be placed on a table, shelf, desk, or other flat surface, or mounted up on the wall (hardware included), but keep in mind that it does need to be plugged in at all times and is not battery operated. There is no weatherproofing, so this is an indoor only camera, unlike the Logitech View, another HomeKit-enabled camera.


An LED on the Eve Cam, which can be disabled, displays camera status. There's no light when it's off or recording has been disabled, a blue light when streaming is enabled and inactive, and a red light when streaming is active and recording is turned on.


Video Quality and Features

Eve Cam features 1080p video recording and streaming along with a 150 degree field of view that is able to capture most of what's going on in a room. There's an infrared motion sensor and support for night vision up to 16.4 feet away when it's dark outside.


Compared to the Circle View from Logitech, another similar HomeKit Secure Video camera, the Eve Cam has a narrower field of view (180 degrees vs. 150 for the Eve Cam). In practice, I can see a bit less of the room when both are in the same position, but there's not a drastic difference.


I also don't see much difference when it comes to video quality - both the Eve Cam and the Circle View are similar, but I'll give the edge to the Eve Cam because it seems to be just a bit more crisp. I think the Circle View performs a bit better in night mode shots, though it's a close call.


There is a built-in microphone and speaker so you can communicate with someone who is in the room with the Eve Cam. Audio quality was fine. It wasn't the best I've ever heard, but it's clear and easy to understand what's being said.

Setup

Setting up the Eve Cam was super simple, as most HomeKit products are. I opened up the Home app, scanned the QR code, and was up and running. I didn't have to connect to a 2.4GHz network for setup because it worked with my 5GHz network, which is a plus.


HomeKit Secure Video

With all cameras that support HomeKit Secure Video, recorded footage is stored in iCloud with end-to-end encryption, which feels more secure than storing footage on servers run by the camera manufacturer.

Eve charges no fees for storing HomeKit Secure Video footage, but using the feature requires a higher-tier iCloud Storage plan. For a single HomeKit Secure Video camera, a 200GB iCloud storage plan is required, and for up to five devices, the 1TB plan is required.

Apple charges $2.99 per month for the 200GB plan and $9.99 per month for 1TB of storage, with no discounted yearly payment plans available. On the plus side, though HomeKit Secure Video requires higher storage tiers, the stored footage does not count against your iCloud storage plan. If you have the 1TB plan, you can use 1TB of storage for apps, photos, messages, files, and more rather than having it eaten up by camera content.

All HomeKit Secure Video footage is stored in iCloud for 10 days, which has been a pretty good length in my testing. I don't often need to access recordings after a few days, and if I do, I can just save the relevant recording to the Photos app before it expires.

Without a compatible iCloud storage plan, the Eve Cam still provides access to live video and notifications when motion is detected, but it can't send specific notifications for when people, pets, or vehicles are detected, nor can footage be recorded and saved.

If you have multiple HomeKit Secure Video cameras and only want to pay for one feed, it's simple to swap between which one is able to record by turning off recording and setting the camera to streaming only. Only the camera that records will require the iCloud subscription.

Home App

Eve camera recordings, both live and stored in iCloud, can be viewed directly in the Home app. Live video is streamed directly to device from a Home Hub, which keeps live recordings secure.


Eve Cam shows up in the "Cameras" list at the bottom of the Home app on iPhone, iPad, and Mac, both on the main page if the camera is favorited and on the page for the specific room in the home that it's assigned to. My camera is in my office, for example, so I see the feed when I look at the Rooms section in the app and choose the room I've labeled office.

With the tvOS 14 update, you can also see camera feeds from HomeKit-enabled cameras like the Eve Cam right on the Apple TV, which is useful if you just want to keep an eye on a specific room while watching TV.


Tapping on the camera shows the current feed along a timeline of recordings provided that you've activated iCloud storage options. You can scroll through the timeline to view past footage, with recordings noting when a person, pet, or vehicle is detected if that particular feature is turned on.

Settings and Automations

There's a lot of granular control over what the camera records, how footage is stored, and what kind of motion detection is activated, which is one of the nice things about HomeKit Secure Video cameras. Apple understands privacy and provides more options than you might get with other home security cameras.


You can choose different streaming and recording options for home and away, so if you'd prefer to have the camera record when you're gone and turn off when you're home, that's an option. Apple in fact has four recording options for all HomeKit Secure Video cameras, including Eve Cam, which are set for home and away.
  • Off - Nothing is recorded and no one can stream video from the camera. The camera does not detect activity and does not trigger automations and notifications.
  • Detect Activity - The camera can detect activity to trigger automations and to send notifications, but no one can stream and nothing is recorded.
  • Stream - The camera's live stream can be viewed, but nothing is recorded. In this mode, it can detect activity to trigger automations and to send notifications.
  • Stream & Allow Recording - This mode allows the cameras live stream to be viewed and it allows footage to be recorded and stored in iCloud.
When these settings talk about automations, they're referring to the motion detection features of the Eve Cam that can be used as triggers in automations. You can, for example, have an automation that turns on all the lights when motion is detected in a specific room. Automations can be set up with any other HomeKit-enabled products with the Eve Cam serving as the trigger device for activating a scene.

Note that the Eve Cam has motion detection, but it lacks the light sensing feature found in the Logitech Circle View, so automations and scenes are limited to motion detection functionality.

Motion Detection and Notifications

All HomeKit Secure Video cameras, Eve Cam included, can be set to record when any motion is detected or the camera detects a person, animal, or vehicle to cut down on random motion detection alerts. Detection for people, animals, and vehicles is done on device rather than on a server somewhere.


Video recordings can be set to record audio or not record audio, and there is an option under "Recording Options" in the Settings to erase all camera recordings.

Apple also offers detailed options for notifications. The Eve Cam can send a snapshot of what's going on whenever motion is recorded, so you can see at a glance in a rich notification if there's something happening that needs to be addressed.

Notifications can be set to be recorded when any motion is detected or when a person, animal, or vehicle is detected and a clip is recorded. Notifications can be limited by time and by location, so you can have notifications turned off while you're at home or during certain hours of the day when there's a lot of activity in the house.

Eve App

You can also view footage from the Eve Cam in the Eve app, which you probably have installed if you own other Eve products. The Eve app isn't necessary, and it offers much of the same feed that you'll see in the Home app along with the same functionality for creating automations and scenes.


You can't view recorded footage in the Eve app because it's all in iCloud, so for the most part, there's no need to use the Eve app with the Eve Cam, but it does have a timeline of when motion was detected and that has the potential to be useful.

iOS 14 Features

iOS 14 introduces a few new features for HomeKit Secure Video that work with the Eve Cam. First and foremost, video from the camera can be viewed in Picture in Picture mode if you tap on the Picture in Picture icon (two screens and an arrow). In Picture in Picture mode, you can do other things on the iPhone will watching the camera feed.


There are also suggested automations you might want to use with camera functionality, such as activating the lights in the room when motion is detected, and there's a new Face Recognition option. With Face Recognition, the iPhone can detect specific people in camera footage recorded by the Eve Cam, letting you know if it detects someone in the family.

Face Recognition pulls information from the Faces that are stored in the Photos Library, and the feature is disabled by default. Notifications will be sent with specific information on who has been detected if the feature is turned on.

The other new feature is Activity Zones, so you can set the camera to only send notifications when motion is detected in a certain part of the video. So if you're recording your office but want to block out notifications for where you sit because there's constant motion, you can do so.

Bottom Line

The Eve Cam is one of a handful of new cameras that offer HomeKit Secure Video functionality, which is more private and protected than standard home security cameras thanks to iCloud integration, encryption, and on-device motion analysis.

At $150, the Eve Cam isn't cheap, but it's a good solution if you're looking for a camera that works with HomeKit and the Secure Video feature specifically. The Eve Cam is similar to the Logitech Circle View that we also recently reviewed.

Comparatively, the Eve Cam is easier to position with the 360 degree base, has slightly better video quality, is $10 cheaper, and offers the Eve app as well as Home app integration, but it is indoor only, has a less wide field of view (150 degrees vs. 180 degrees), and the night vision is slightly better with the Circle View.

Either camera is a great home security option depending on the feature set that you're looking for, but do be aware that these are specifically designed to work with HomeKit Secure Video and are not compatible with other smart home systems. It's also worth noting that there are more affordable HomeKit Secure Video cameras on the market such as the $40 Eufy Indoor Cam but I have not yet been able to try it out to see how it compares to the more expensive options.

How to Buy

The Eve Cam can be purchased from the Eve website or from Amazon for $149.95.

Note: Eve provided MacRumors with an Eve Cam for the purpose of this review. No other compensation was received.

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MrX8503

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Can anyone confirm the most private HSV camera? I got the Eufy, but I don't trust that thing at all considering how it was set up.

Deciding between the Eve vs Logitech
 
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Cubsfan

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I have the Circle View and the Eufy. I'd choose the Eufy every time for indoor use.
 

UnseenLlama

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I have the Circle View and the Eufy. I'd choose the Eufy every time for indoor use.

Eufy indoor cams need to maintain a connection to Eufy servers or else the camera becomes unresponsive. That's not how HKSV was meant to work and it certainly doesn't make the Eufy cams the most private.

If you are looking for a strict HomeKit-only camera that supports HKSV, you need to choose the Eve or Circle 2/View cameras.
 

Cubsfan

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Eufy indoor cams need to maintain a connection to Eufy servers or else the camera becomes unresponsive. That's not how HKSV was meant to work and it certainly doesn't make the Eufy cams the most private.

If you are looking for a strict HomeKit-only camera that supports HKSV, you need to choose the Eve or Circle 2/View cameras.

Last I saw on reddit the new firmware changed that. Perhaps not though.

Edit: Here's the link: https://www.reddit.com/r/HomeKit/comments/hzyu8h Sounds like it's meant to call home, but differing results on if it's blocked.
 

iLoveDeveloping

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Nice thank you, I’m moving house soon and was looking for some security cams, I was going for the ring ones but seeing this has home kit and sounds much more secure I’m definitely getting the 2 pack for front and back of house!! Thanks guys!!
 
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UnseenLlama

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Last I saw on reddit the new firmware changed that. Perhaps not though.

It did not. The Eufy cams were designed to have the constant ping. If you restrict the camera at the router (eero HomeKit Router) the camera will eventually go offline and then not be available in Apple Home app. Even if you turn off the camera in the Eufy app, it's still pinging them.

The only thing that 2.07.7 firmware did increase the resolution for streaming and HKSV recordings. Prior to that, the video was completely unusable (at least for me). I'm moving away from Eufy. They have great prices, but at what cost to your privacy.
 

Cubsfan

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It did not. The Eufy cams were designed to have the constant ping. If you restrict the camera at the router (eero HomeKit Router) the camera will eventually go offline and then not be available in Apple Home app. Even if you turn off the camera in the Eufy app, it's still pinging them.

The only thing that 2.07.7 firmware did increase the resolution for streaming and HKSV recordings. Prior to that, the video was completely unusable (at least for me). I'm moving away from Eufy. They have great prices, but at what cost to your privacy.

It also made the damn led light stay off :)

So it looks like NTP is a big part of it, which is not something that bothers me. Has anyone measured the bandwidth to see if it's sending enough back to see if it's sending video back?
 
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brubeast

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Wondering if HKSV reviews could include a section on how many devices can access the feeds at once. It’s the main dealbreaker for me with the Logi circle 2 that I’ve tried with HKSV, since it means that only one device in the house can see what my daughter is doing. We have an old iPad set up to monitor the cameras, and we always want to be able to access the feed on our phones as well. On the Logitech app you can do this, but with obvious privacy concerns.
 

Thekevan

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When are we going to get more than 1080p feeds, Apple? Surely your servers can handle the load.

this is my biggest gripe about HomeKit. I use the Eufy indoor 2k cams, but I use local storage (SD card in the camera) so I don’t have to give Apple money for iCloud storage. This still allows me to monitor the cameras and view recorded footage through HomeKit without a subscription. However, even with that setup Apple restricts it to 1k (1080p). That’s absurd.
 

aandre

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It would be nice if the app let you rotate the image. As it is that’s an obstacle for those who need to attach the camera to a ceiling.
 

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Wondering if HKSV reviews could include a section on how many devices can access the feeds at once. It’s the main dealbreaker for me with the Logi circle 2 that I’ve tried with HKSV, since it means that only one device in the house can see what my daughter is doing. We have an old iPad set up to monitor the cameras, and we always want to be able to access the feed on our phones as well. On the Logitech app you can do this, but with obvious privacy concerns.

The answer is one device. As far as I know, that is true for all HomeKit Secure Video cameras.
 

hxlover904

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I just recently got the eve cam and so far I like it quite a bit. It’s worked great with geofencing and the video quality has been decent. I like the indicator light changing colors when someone is actively viewing the stream. I especially like Eves stance on privacy and not sending anything to their servers.

I also have the Eufy 2k and it’s been pretty decent. But I leave it facing outside as I don’t trust that one nearly as much.
 

brubeast

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The answer is one device. As far as I know, that is true for all HomeKit Secure Video cameras.
Any idea whether this is a HomeKit limitation or a hardware limitation? I had read on other forums that it isn’t a HomeKit limitation.
 

Beerswiller

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I wish there was a way to have the Eve camera designated as a 'Favorite Accessory' so it will be visible in Control Center on iOS. Right now it's designated as a 'Favorite Camera' but that doesn't show up in Control Center. Would be great to just swipe the corner from any app and pull it up.
 

Hellofromhere

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important to note Eve Cam will not detect motion through a window. a deal breaker for millions of us renters who aren’t allowed to drill through a wall. they’ve updated their faq just recently after i bough one for that purpose - it uses IR for motion trigger not video motion. maybe helpful for some people as so many reviewers have not tried this common use case

(long time reader, first post! thought i share a tip earned through my frustration...)
 
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This says it all for me, "...recorded footage is stored in ‌iCloud‌ with end-to-end encryption..."

The reason I avoid all of these 3rd party products is because they expect us to believe they will not view or share the information we accumulate and/or store via their product (for example, Nokia weight scales). And the excuse that they require the data so their servers can analyze does not make any sense.

Now I'm trying to understand why the article uses the work 'feels' in the statement,"...which feels more secure than storing footage on servers run by the camera manufacturer." Made me laugh as I anything within the Apple system is (as opposed to feels) more secure than with a 3rd party manufacturer.
 
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AbSoluTc

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These cameras are terrible. Video quality is junk. Not worth $150. Just tried 2 of them and it’s bad. It’s like an old flip phone camera.
 
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