Rick Perry asks Obama to continue letting people die to save money

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  1. likemyorbs macrumors 68000

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    Well, that's pretty much what it boils down to.

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    This comment from a Yahoo poster sums up my feelings pretty well...

     
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    No surprise here. Rick Perry is a jerk. Why do you Texans keep electing these people? WTF happened to the state that elected Ann Richards?
     
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    What is old is new again.
     
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    If the shoe fits...
     
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    If we'd just settle on the dollar value of a human life it would be a lot easier to make policy decisions! :rolleyes:
     
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    Ah yes jobs: the all-purpose excuse.

    Want cleaner air? Can't -- it'll cost us jobs!

    Want better pay? Can't -- it'll cost us jobs!

    Want financial industry regulation? Can't -- it'll cost us jobs!

    And coming soon...

    Want to prevent child sex abuse? Can't -- it'll cost us jobs!

    (Okay, maybe I'm being hyperbolic with that last one. But nowadays, you can never tell.)
     
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    Why not? Most of the presidential candidates refused to condemn the booing of a US soldier at their own debate. Why would this surprise anyone anymore?
     
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    What? When did that happen?
     
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    It was during the FOX debate- the question from a gay soldier asking if the candidates would do anything to hinder the advancements for gay and lesbian soldiers. Rick Santorum was the first to 'answer.'

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?nomobile=1&v=1HGo-B39Fhw

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    How did you miss that one? It was their latest new low. Santorum came back a few days later and condemned the booing, while the rest of the candidates said, "no comment" when asked about the incident, except Jon Huntsman, who also condemned it.
     
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    Wow, im disgusted. But then again republicans usually have that effect on me. I don't think the pentagon would allow him to reinstitute DADT.

    Yeah i just searched "fox debate gay soldier"

    I chose not to watch that debate. I'd rather watch an episode of jersey shore because those guidos and guidettes have a higher collective IQ than the entire GOP.
     
  13. leekohler macrumors G5

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    Here ya go:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HGo-B39Fhw

    Charming.

    And didn't you just love the crowd cheering for bigotry at the end of his rant? Amazing and disgusting. That whole crowd basically told an American soldier that he isn't worthy of respect. I'm still wondering how much lower they'll sink.
     
  14. likemyorbs thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Some day people who are anti-gay will be shunned like racists are today. Besides, what do you expect from an audience full of GOP rednecks?

    You know what else sucks? People who are fiscally conservative and socially liberal have no one to vote for.
     
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    It's just beyond repulsive. The one thing I never thought I'd see is any Republican booing a soldier and cheering disrespectfully.

    When did they ever? Show me the last Republican president who was fiscally conservative. They've been spewing that lie forever. I can't believe anyone buys that line anymore.
     
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    Yeah well you probably also never thought you would live to see the day when gays can serve openly in the military. You win some you lose some i guess.
     
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    Nah- I figured I'd live to see that one. It's marriage I have my doubts about.
     
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    The crowd obviously sucks because they boo at the man for being gay, but I actually agree with Santorum (though I didn't understand the second part entirely). Basically all he's saying is "in the military, nobody cares about your sexuality, so don't make a fuss about it", isn't he?
     
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    I don't have my doubts on marriage. I say give it a decade. Popular opinion just went over the tipping point in favor of gay marriage.

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    Yeah except for in reality, people DO talk about sex. But the straight guys mostly get away with it, whereas if a gay guy talked about his bf he risked being discharged. Guys talk about sex, plain and simple. You can't expect soldiers to be any different.
     
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    Yep- under DADT if someone found out you were gay, you got discharged. Is that what you agree with, (marc)?
     
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    If that was his position, he would have supported the repeal of DADT because under DADT, the only people who DID care about your sexuality were the military. If you were (edit-outed as being gay), you were kicked out. If they truly didn't care, then, they wouldn't care. It's pretty obvious.
     
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    Yeah if they wanted to be fair about it, DADT would have applied to straight people as well. But it unfairly targeted gays. They should have just banned talking about sex altogether, oh wait, don't they already have some sort of rules against that? They just needed to pass DADT as a means to get rid of teh gays. It had nothing to do with "not talking about sex in the military."
     
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    That's the problem. There's nothing inherently discriminating about DADT.

    In a working DADT environment, nobody could find out.
     
  24. likemyorbs thread starter macrumors 68000

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    How so? If they found out you were gay you were discharged, if they found out you were straight it was all good. How do you not see the discrimination?


    Yeah well it didn't work, and was therefore repealed.
     
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    Sure there is. Straight people can talk about their partners, gay people can't. I don't know how that could be perceived as anything BUT discriminatory.

    But they did, didn't they? It happened over 14,000 times.
     

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