Rick Santorum: Separation Of Church And State A Communist Idea, Not An American One -

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  1. steve knight macrumors 68020

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    Well I feel we dodged another bullet with this nutjob.

    In a conference call with members of right-wing pastor E.W. Jackson’s STAND America that was posted online today, former senator Rick Santorum disputed the existence of the separation of church and state in the U.S. Constitution, dismissing it as a Communist idea that has no place in America.

    A listener on the call told Santorum that “a number of the things that the far left, a.k.a. the Democrat [sic] Party, and the president is pushing for and accomplishing actually accomplishes a number of the tenets of ‘The Communist Manifesto,’ including the amnesty, the elevation of pornography, homosexuality, gay marriage, voter fraud, open borders, mass self-importation of illegal immigrants and things of that nature.” The likely presidential candidate replied that “the words ‘separation of church and state’ is not in the U.S. Constitution, but it was in the constitution of the former Soviet Union. That’s where it very, very comfortably sat, not in ours.”
    - See more at: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/conte...st-idea-not-american-one#sthash.SvmoG3Dr.dpuf
     
  2. zioxide macrumors 603

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    Santorum needs a dictionary and a reading comprehension class. Scratch that, that wouldn't help. Santorum needs a brain first.


    It might just be me, but it seems like state-sanctioned/state-sponsored religion sounds pretty damn communist to me.

    On the flip side, keeping religion completely separate and way from the state seems like FREEDOM to me. You know.. one of the core principles this country was founded upon.


    Obama was spot on when he talked about people like Santorum clinging to their guns and bibles though. Just throw a little Mccarthyism in there as well to really rile up the feeble minded and you've got the Republican playbook 101.
     
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    Didn't the separation of church and state come from the founding fathers as a rejection of the british notion of divine nobility? Someone please educate me.
     
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    You would be quite correct. someone should have called Santorum out and asked him if he believes if Thomas Jefferson was a communist. After all, it was his notion.

    All the more reason why we need our Dept. of Education. The fact that someone this misinformed made it to our federal chambers of government is absolutely astonishing.

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    Agreed, I can't understand why this nitwit gets so much coverage in the media.
     
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    The "America" that men like Santorum talk about isn't the founding father's America. It's the intolerant, Christian fundamentalist America of the Puritans. Using Cold War propaganda to reinforce their views.
     
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    And to think this man was a candidate for presidency! It would be more comunistic to force everyone to live by his religion... Honestly, why should one person's religious beliefs/rules apply as law to citizens who have different religious views, or are non-religious. That's the biggest shame I have about associating with republicans...
     
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    This could be the start of the 2016 presidential political season already. The normal cadre of candidates from both parties will have a spectrum of liberal/conservative sensibilities to unite their respective base. I doubt that this notion of communism is the same throughout the GOP field of candidates. Besides if Santorum did get elected, the candidate who plays to their base usually govern from the "center", am I right?

    Santorum will never be the nominee, he will endorse a candidate hoping that the type of person that would vote for him will vote for his recommendation.
     
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    but he's not aware of that yet
     
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    Santorum makes for many good skits on Sarurday Night Live. What is scary is that he is serious. Have IQs dropped precipitately around here in the last 50 years?
     
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    I would say least 15 years, but that could easily be stretched to the past 20 - 22 years.

    Something seemed to happen somewhere around 1992, then Wile E. Coyote'd off a cliff around 2000 but no-one expected it to drop this badly.

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  13. xmichaelp, Dec 2, 2014
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    Hilarious.

    But yeah, I'll never understand the far rights insistence that America is a "Christian nation" when it was founded on being the exact opposite.

    They think the Government saying "we do not impose any religion on our people and you can practice whatever you want" means "LOL STATE ATHEISM"

    Idiots.

    Edit: I should clarify. My "far right" I mean guys like Santorum, no one on here fits that bill from what I've seen.
     
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    How do these imbeciles get elected to congress when they don't understand what is in the document they are sworn to uphold and defend ?

    Well.... At least he's now a "former" congressman. :rolleyes:
     
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    That's right, the US constitution has no place in America burn that parchment! Rick Santorum for president of the United States 2016. If he runs I'll vote for him.

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    You are correct, as the head of the Church of England is none other than Queen Lizzy today. The rejection of church and state was an outright rejection of protestantism, although over the years the Prottys have crept into the United States anyway.

    Someone needs to tell the Sanitarium that a true American would never be a protestant.

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    You can blame a french person Alex De Tocqueville for putting it in the heads of the average Murrican that the United States is gods country and the city upon the hill.
     
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    HEY i was born in 1992 :confused:

    As for the topic in the OP: no words
     
  18. bradl macrumors 68040

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    Hey, I graduated high school in 1992! :D

    But seriously, when you think about it, it was roughly around that timeframe where music sorta took a dive. Virtuosity was replaced by bands that could barely play 3 power chords to save their lives.

    Beavis and Butthead.

    The Real World stopped being a reality show that actually raised awareness and became a show where people try to be more outlandish than others.

    So the downward trend was beginning to start around that time. It just kept going, to today.

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    Are you implying that I wasted my youth watching Beavis and Butthead?
     
  20. bradl macrumors 68040

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    No.. I'm not only implying, but I admit I wasted my first year in college watching Beavis and Butthead, plus skipping class to play Mortal Kombat. :eek: :eek:

    BL.

    P.S. Kano, FTW!

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    Well there are some federal appeals judges in the southern states who dont seem to be able to read a contract correctly - even when that contract is the US constitution. I can't see any other explanation for why they didn't agree the gay marriage ban was unconstitutional.
     
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    We are the MTV generation

     
  23. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    The pope is a head of state too ;).
     
  24. orestes1984 macrumors 65816

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    The Vatican yes, but the people of New England didn't have a problem with catholics at the time. It was the protestants.
     

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