Romney: "Corporations are people"

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  1. likemyorbs macrumors 68000

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    Legally speaking, he is absolutely correct. However, this needs to be changed and fast. People pay taxes, corporations find their way out of paying them. So if they are people they must be special people who are favored by the government.
     
  2. Shrink macrumors G3

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    Even when taxed, corporations don't pay taxes, they COLLECT taxes. :(
     
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    How e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-l-l-l-l-l-l.
     
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    he is right there

    to say it with some quotes

    A criminal is a person with predatory instincts without sufficient capital to form a corporation.
    Howard Scott

    Corporation: An ingenious device for obtaining profit without individual responsibility.
    Ambrose Bierce

    so yes corporations are people ....the worst of the worst because corporations have only one single goal profit at all cost on the expense of other people
     
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    If he wins the nomination, this quote is going to follow him all the way to November 2012.
     
  6. AP_piano295 macrumors 65816

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    It's worth reading the book:

    "The Gone Away World"

    it's focused on the concept that while individuals are basically good. If you put those same people into a corporation then you can get them to do basically anything. It becomes all about the corporation rather than personal responsibility.

    ...also there are ninjas :cool:.
     
  7. CorvusCamenarum macrumors 65816

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    The same could probably be said of any entity that sells or provides a good or service. The "cost" of taxes are built into the price point.

    But yeah, they're corporations, so they're all evil.
     
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    A couple of quotes from NPR, that should stir the pot^H^H^Hbrain:

    Valid point.

    A good counter for unions, but probably won't hold up against the normal rhetoric of the Reds.

    A bit extreme, but a valid question. and finally:

    I see what this one is trying to say, but think they got the wording wrong.

    Personally, I think that this opens the door to a LOT of problems. Take Citicorp, for example. The corporation is majority owned by entities outside of the US, including the investment authorities of Kuwait, Abu Dhabi, Singapore, and the kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

    By that right, those holders of the corporation make up the "person", and as such are given 13th, 14th and 1st amendment protections, even though they are not a citizen or resident of this country. That is flat out WRONG.

    BL.
     
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    I watched the YouTube video. Those people in Iowa are a bunch of slobs.

    It's no wonder this country is in so much trouble. :cool:
     
  12. Shrink macrumors G3

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    Agree with you completely. :)

    BTW, I never suggested it was evil, just stating a fact.

    (kavika411 assumed I meant it was "eeeeevvvvviiiiillll" ;))
     
  13. Papanate macrumors regular

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    Wrong..my company is a corporation. We have multiple goals - none of which are predicated on profits before people.

    Likewise Costco is a huge corporation - and they take care of their employees while taking care of their customers. From what I hear from their folks - it's a great place to work at.
     
  14. jnpy!$4g3cwk macrumors 65816

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    Privately owned corporations don't have this problem, but, public corporations are sometimes pressured by shareholders to behave as if they not only are persons, but, psychopathic persons with no regard for anything except short-term profits!
     
  15. kavika411 macrumors 6502a

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    [​IMG]

    We'll add "psychopathic" to the growing pantheon of words neutered and otherwise rendered meaningless by the PRSI.
     
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    It largely goes to the small nomber of upper-level managers and CEO's. A piddling goes top the actual workers and stockholders.

    Bwahahahahahahaha!
     
  18. IntelliUser macrumors 6502

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    Technically he is correct, if by his definition corporations are people everything they earn earn ultimately goes to the people, i.e. themselves.
     
  19. Shrink macrumors G3

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    That's where Romney lived before he started slopping at the public trough.
     
  20. rdowns macrumors Penryn

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    How old were you when that picture was taken?
     
  21. kavika411 macrumors 6502a

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    High school yearbook. So would have either been seventeen or eighteen.
     
  22. jnpy!$4g3cwk macrumors 65816

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    Since the US courts have long since decided that corporations are persons, it is useful to think about what kind of persons they might be.

    "Psychopathy (/saɪˈkɒpəθi/) is a term which, until the 1980s,
    formally referred to a personality disorder characterized by the
    inability to form human attachment and an abnormal lack of
    empathy, masked by an ability to appear outwardly normal."

    See: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Psychopathy

    I didn't invent either aspect of this discussion. Just Google "corporation psychopath best interest principle". The Best Interest Principle is frequently interpreted as requiring that corporations maximize short term profits, even at the expense of long-term growth and profits. In Silicon Valley, this has been one reason why some companies have been forced to go back to private equity: the difficulty in managing investor expectations. Speaking of Macrumors, Apple is doing really well right now, but, wait until demand for new smartphones drops, and watch the vultures swoop in and try to stop Apple from reinvesting its billions in the next big thing.
     
  23. kavika411 macrumors 6502a

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    OK.

    [​IMG]



    I guess your zeal for hyperbole isn't shared by the internets.
     
  24. samiwas macrumors 65816

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    Try it without quotes...then you get some results. I think that's what he was saying...putting the words to Google within quotes, but not as a quoted phrase.
     

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