Ahhh... one of the best acronyms ever invented. Used with alarming regularity in the tech support world I was reminded of this last night as I struggled for over an hour with DVD backup, trying to rip a DVD to my desktop so I can watch it later without the disc. It would just give up everytime it got to the video files. Over and over and over again. Turns out you need to load up DVD player to "validate" the disc before it'll let you do it. I'd set the machine not to load up DVD player upon mounting a DVD so I never knew that. Of course, if I'd read the @#)$(*#@ documentation that came with DVD backup, I would have known!!! Seems to me that it's a mostly male thing, to try to solve every problem without referring to the manual if at all possible. When we bought our TV, a Metz Astral (excellent set btw), I set about setting it up without bothering to look at the manual. My girlfriend wandered off, as she saw what was coming ("let me know when you finally get it working", she said). Of course, in typical efficient German style, the manufacturers had replaced the labels on the remote control with vague symbols and colours that had nothing to do with the functions. A couple of hours later, I relented and resorted to the manual, and had the thing working within 15 minutes. Also does anyone else do this - when something isn't working when you do something.. you try that same thing again and again? It's like "ok, if I push this button ONE MORE TIME, maybe it'll decide to work this time". and then you're really surprised when the thing you did 20 times before that didn't work, surprisingly fails to work, again. Fun times!