Russia/Iran cooperation in Syria, about Assad? or more?

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  1. LizKat macrumors 68040

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    This is a pretty good read. When you’re done, you will wonder who’s on first.

    Behind Russia-Iran cooperation over Syria, a larger goal

    Wondering who's on first is as it should be, since the shifting alliances of the three powers that will manage Syria’s fate are not concerned only about what’s left of poor Syria, never mind the so far lucky Assad. Meanwhile most of what gets said publicly is strictly for consumption by the respective domestic audiences in the USA, Russia and Iran. With a few cross-ocean suggestions that may be worth taking with at least a grain of salt.

    I hasten to say CSM itself is generally neutral in foreign affairs reporting, so I’m not calling that newspaper “government press” or anything of the sort.

    A few excerpts:

    “It means that keeping Assad in power is very important for Iran, and for Iranian hardliners too, since they are allowing an infidel military on their sacred territory,” says Pavel Felgenhauer, a defense columnist for Novaya Gazeta in Moscow.

    “The Iranian and Russian strategic intent in Syria seems much closer than the Russian and American strategic intent in Syria,” says Mr. Felgenhauer, referring to an earlier agreement by the US and Russia to seek a negotiated solution. “I was a bit surprised that the Russian defense ministry so promptly [acknowledged] that we are in Iran…. The Russian military tends to be secretive, so that was a political decision to demonstrate to the world that Russia and Iran are militarily together.”

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    While Iran- and Russia-led cooperation had already made life “very tough for terrorists,” the new expansion “will continue until they are completely wiped out,” said Ali Shamkhani, the head of Iran’s Supreme National Security Council, on Tuesday.

    Top Iranian lawmaker Alaeddin Boroujerdi noted today that Russian planes were only refueling at the base, and that “generally, there is no stationing of Russian forces” in Iran.

    Washington called the move “unfortunate” and said it “pushes us farther away” from a nationwide cease-fire and the UN-sponsored political process in Geneva that includes Russia. Earlier this week, Russian defense chief Sergei Shoigu was quoted saying the US and Russia were in “a very active phase” of talks about the surge of fighting in Aleppo, “to start fighting together to bring peace.”

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    The Iran-Russia cooperation results from “the crisis of terrorism that has been created by some destructive countries in the region and America, therefore we think that Russia has found the right treatment for the region,” said Mr. Larijani. Top Iranian officials often accuse the US of creating and backing IS and other jihadists fighting Assad, claiming it is a bid to undermine their own Iran-led axis of resistance against US and Israeli influence in the region.

    Indeed, the Iran-Russia cooperation is temporary, defined by mutual recognition of the threat of IS, and “is not a coalition against a third-party state [such as] the US, Saudi Arabia, or Turkey,” says Kayhan Barzegar, director of the Institute for Middle East Strategic Studies in Tehran.

    It is “true that taking the lead in battling and destroying Daesh [IS] in Syria and Iraq will have broader geopolitical consequences for rival states, but Moscow and Tehran have never wanted to exclude other actors from the Syrian scene,” says Mr. Barzegar. “Their military cooperation is only aimed at accelerating the political solution and not winning the war in a zero sum manner. Therefore, Washington and its allies, if determined to defeat IS, should not feel concerned [about] possible long-term strategic consequences.”
     
  2. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    Russia has military bases in Syria. It's about that.
     
  3. rdowns macrumors Penryn

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    What a conundrum for the right. Putin was their best friend last week and now he's in bed with their worst enemy.
     
  4. LizKat thread starter macrumors 68040

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    Yeah. You left out the part how they also think the USA is all wrong on ME policy.

    Republican looks around empty room. Wait a min.. I'll have all the answers in about ten minutes.

    LOL these guys wrapping themselves in the flag.
     
  5. Macky-Mac macrumors 68030

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    That's certainly a major reason why they got involved last Fall.

    This new effort suggests that the results of last year's offensive didn't meet their expectations of defeating the anti-Assad forces; both ISIS and other groups.

    When it comes to "wondering who's on first....", the OP article doesn't mention the co-operation between Russia and Israel, but that's going on too
     
  6. LizKat thread starter macrumors 68040

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    LOL remembering funny part of a Bob Baer book, Baer talking about being on the job, riding with an arms dealer and spotting an AK-47 casually laid in the well of the car. Commented on it. The guy said that's not an AK-47. Baer to self: right, how could that be an AK-47 as we're in Tel Aviv heading to lunch. imo that may not have been an official part of any kind of cooperation between anybody and anybody else though...
     
  7. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    oh please, same goes for the left, Russia is trying to rig the elections by showing DNC corruption & now Russia is your bested pal :rolleyes:
     

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