Russia to cut the US out of the ISS

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  1. MacNut macrumors Core

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    http://www.theverge.com/2014/5/13/5...ccess-to-the-international-space-station-over

    Wether or not this is true will be an issue at some point with Putin flexing his old man muscles.
     
  2. quagmire macrumors 603

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    This is just rides to the ISS correct? Shouldn't be that big of deal.

    A) Who knows where Russia-US relations be in 2020

    B) SpaceX, Boeing, etc should be ready for manned launches in 2017. And NASA's SLS rocket will be ready in 2021( though will be expensive to do LEO missions). The Atlas V will be human rated for Boeing's capsule, so NASA could use it as well to put their Orion capsule( though the Atlas V will need a new engine to replace the Russian RD-180). There is also the possibility to human-rate the Delta IV/Heavy( which the Delta IV Heavy is launching an unmanned Orion capsule this year for testing).
     
  3. Huntn macrumors G5

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    There are U.S. companies working on transport for the ISS. I have no idea how long before they are in operation for transport of people. My other question is about the ISS. As it is, are we gaining anything from it or is it just a huge expense?
     
  4. MacNut thread starter macrumors Core

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    There is a lot of experiments for deep space travel being done now on the ISS.

    The article seems to imply that the Russians will cut off their side of the station to the US.
     
  5. quagmire macrumors 603

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    Who controls the ISS's thrusters to send it into the atmosphere? :p
     
  6. Southern Dad macrumors 65816

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    I guess in hindsight, scrapping the US space shuttle program wasn't such a good idea.
     
  7. quagmire macrumors 603

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    The Shuttle's were aging. It was time to retire them. And unfortunately NASA doesn't have the budget to develop a new vehicle while the old one is still operating. Shuttle had to go in order for SLS to be developed.

    Even if Obama did reverse Bush's directive to retire the Shuttle's, it would have taken years and valuable money to restart production and find new suppliers to supply the parts to keep the Shuttle's going.

    As mentioned earlier, there are commercial options in the works to send US astronauts to the ISS. As usual though Congress protecting their own interests( states that have companies supplying parts for the SLS HLV) have been underfunding NASA's commercial effort. SpaceX says they will be ready in 2017 for manned launches, but who knows if that will stick if the program keeps on getting underfunded.
     
  8. Southern Dad macrumors 65816

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    Well, we can use a trampoline to get them up there now...
     
  9. nebo1ss macrumors 68030

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    To every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
     
  10. Southern Dad macrumors 65816

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    Unfortunately, the USA has lost some much face during this administration that other nations have zero respect for the USA. What was it that Barry was whispering? He'd have more latitude after the election? How's that working out?
     
  11. rdowns macrumors Penryn

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    Oh yeah, the USA was riding high off of all the goodwill we built up during the Bush years. :rolleyes:
     
  12. Southern Dad macrumors 65816

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    Obama asks Putin not to allow Snowden in...
    Obama tells Putin not to invade Urkraine...
    Russia tells us to figure out how to get to the Space Station on our own...

    Hell of a foreign policy.
     
  13. rdowns macrumors Penryn

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    So "other nations" is Russia. What would you have done?
     
  14. Kissaragi macrumors 68020

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    5 and a half years to send up the needed parts for the rest of the world to carry on without Russia up there. And draw a huge red line down the middle of course
     
  15. bradl macrumors 68040

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    Spoken like someone who decided to omit 2001-2008 from their life.

    BL.
     
  16. Technarchy macrumors 603

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    Motivation to get our own space program back in order.

    The F35 debacle is a trillion dollars and counting. Why aren't we putting that much money into the space program?
     
  17. G51989 macrumors 68030

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    Because the F35 is much more profitable to defense contractors and their lobbyists that run congress.

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    The USA didn't lose any of its face in the world because of Blunders like Iraq and Afghanistan?

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    The shuttles were getting far to old to stay safe.
     
  18. Southern Dad macrumors 65816

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    Good question... How many years has Obama been Commander & Chief? He owns Afghanistan.

    Really? We have aircraft that are far older than the shuttles and they are still in service.
     
  19. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    Divert some military slush to NASA.

    The US should have just stayed away from the Ukraine debacle, let Europe deal with it and pardon Snowden.
     
  20. quagmire macrumors 603

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    They are not as complex or as fragile as the Shuttle.

    Funny, after Columbia people were calling the Shuttle's POS and demanding them to be retired. Now they want them back, blame Obama for killing our space program, etc.
     
  21. G51989 macrumors 68030

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    It does't matter if Obama owns it or not, the world community does care. Bush started a war over false pretenses, they don't care that Obama was kept Afghanistan going, they care that Bush started it.

    You aren't serious right?

    A Space shuttle is FAR more complex than your average aircraft, and undergoes huge strains that extend what aircraft deal with. Overhauling one would costs billions and take years.

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    This.

    There is a HUGE difference between spacecraft and aircraft. The amount of stress a shuttle undergoes during launch and re entry are pretty insane.

    Its like comparing Apples to a timing belt on a 1991 Chrysler Minivan.
     
  22. skunk macrumors G4

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    The US should not have provoked the Ukraine debacle.
     
  23. Southern Dad macrumors 65816

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    Who provoked the Ukraine debacle?
     
  24. G51989 macrumors 68030

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    It might be possible, tho I am not decided, that the west started the problems in Ukraine, to destablize it, and annex it for the west.

    The West and NATO have been trying to box in Russia for a long time now, the issue is that it isn't really working. You saw the Russians take Crimea, there is a very good chance they will take the East of Ukraine to keep the West away from Russia.
     
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    Dubya was without a doubt the most despised piece of crap that ever walked this earth, in the last 25 years.
     

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