Russian Prime Minister Opposes Gay “Propaganda” Law

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  1. leekohler macrumors G5

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    Good for Russia. Let's see what happens. I play hockey with several Russians and they've been very upset about this whole mess. Let's hope this turns around in a good way.

    http://www.advocate.com/news/world-news/2012/12/08/russian-prime-minister-opposes-gay-propaganda-law
     
  2. likemyorbs macrumors 68000

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    Russia has a VERY long way to go. I'm so thankful my parents left there.
     
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    I have long thought that D. A. Medvedev was always a bit more open-minded (and possibly, potentially even liberal) on a great many issues than his mentor; however, for a variety of reasons, he was not in a position to deliver while he served as president as his mentor - serving as PM at the time, but since returned to the kremlin as President - over-shadowed him, and managed to block quite a number of planned reforms.

    My sense is that Mr Medvedev feels that now may be his last opportunity to make some sort of positive mark on Russian history and political & social culture; it is a pity that it seems to have taken him so long to make a stand for whatever principles he holds, but better late than never.

    Yes, indeed. A long, tortuous and uneven way to go, yet.
     
  4. leekohler thread starter macrumors G5

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    Yes, but this is a huge leap. No politician has even come close to saying anything like this.
     
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    I agree completely; I remember that when Mr Medvedev became President in 2008 there was some guarded optimism, because he was considered in some quarters to have been something of a liberal. While he served as President, President Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton attempted to cultivate a relationship with Mr Medvedev (in the process, hoping to bypass, or at least sideline a little the somewhat baleful influence of Mr Putin) but little came of it despite the fact that foreign affairs were considered the remit of the President rather than the PM.

    Having said that, I think that for Mr Medvedev it is make or break time; he needs to deliver on some of his beliefs and ideals, or risk seeing his entire time in public life as a decorous fig-leaf for some dreadful practices on the part of (far more culpable) others.

    Besides, rumours from Russia suggest that his remaining time as PM may not be terribly long, and he may wish to leave some sort of constructive legacy after he leaves office (voluntarily or not). If so, good luck to him. I sincerely hope he succeeds.
     
  6. MadeTheSwitch macrumors 6502a

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    It's a start, but now he needs to get Moscow to stop blocking gay pride events.
     
  7. avro707 macrumors 6502a

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    Well done Medvedev.

    The time for talk is over, the time for concrete actions is now. Let's see if he has some real strength of conviction, or will this just be a nice little PR exercise and nothing more really happens.
     
  8. Solomani macrumors 68030

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    Yes Medvedev is the more pragmatic one, but the reality is that Putin currently holds and exercises more power. Medvedev has been pushed back to a more ceremonial role (kinda like US Vice President, which really cannot do much even if he disagrees with the POTUS).

    It's very much like Iran. Iran has an elected Prime Minister who is considered a moderate, a pragmatic, a reformer, and someone willing to negotiate with the West. But his powers are limited. Why? Because his executive powers are superseded by the Grand Ayatollah (who has the final say).
     
  9. juanm macrumors 65816

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    FYI, this is an old thread, and leekohler was banned a long time ago, so I doubt he'll be reading this...
     

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